Comments on: Opportunities, Fringe Science and the Spies Among Us http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2010/01/opportunities-fringe-science-and-the-spies-among-us/ Truth or Fiction? Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:13:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: gael http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2010/01/opportunities-fringe-science-and-the-spies-among-us/comment-page-1/#comment-328 gael Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:07:39 +0000 http://www.topsecretwriters.com/?p=474#comment-328 i am the man thats gonna destroy the thick layers that hide the truth ! i am the man thats gonna destroy the thick layers that hide the truth !

]]> By: Ryan http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2010/01/opportunities-fringe-science-and-the-spies-among-us/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Ryan Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:52:13 +0000 http://www.topsecretwriters.com/?p=474#comment-284 Thanks for your comment Jack! I should have clarified, as I did privately to you, that none of the comments about any of the scientists previously working with Gordon, was in reference to you in any way. I was actually referring to a couple of other folks on your list. One was Paul, but now that he's willing to talk about his work in the open and in a fair and balanced way, I may very well have to retract any reference that I made regarding Paul. I'm very interested to learn more about his work, and if it's anything like the bona fide work you describe with models built in lab - it'll be very interesting to hear about, and write about. Thanks again for your comment. Thanks for your comment Jack! I should have clarified, as I did privately to you, that none of the comments about any of the scientists previously working with Gordon, was in reference to you in any way.

I was actually referring to a couple of other folks on your list. One was Paul, but now that he’s willing to talk about his work in the open and in a fair and balanced way, I may very well have to retract any reference that I made regarding Paul.

I’m very interested to learn more about his work, and if it’s anything like the bona fide work you describe with models built in lab - it’ll be very interesting to hear about, and write about.

Thanks again for your comment.

]]> By: Jack Sarfatti http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2010/01/opportunities-fringe-science-and-the-spies-among-us/comment-page-1/#comment-283 Jack Sarfatti Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:00:43 +0000 http://www.topsecretwriters.com/?p=474#comment-283 For the record I recused myself from the financial equity meetings at SARA, I only attended the technical meetings where Gordon was silent because in fact he could not say any thing that would make sense to the engineers. I made it clear that I was only there as a fair witness on the technology. Also it needs to be understood that the technology presented to the investors that Gordon brought to the table was SARA's bona-fide technology funded by DOD in areas of non-lethal weapons, energy conversion, C^3 drones - conventional stuff. The idea was for Gordon's investors to fund conventional technology with a preliminary side RAM project - only on feasibility. Parviz (CEO) was very clear about this and has detailed records and a business plan showing that we were never pitching Gordon's "theories" of "zero time vortex" the "circuit" and other techno-babble. Indeed, as I said, Gordon never said a word about it at the meetings I attended. In addition to the SARA technology, Paul Murad summarized his talk at the JASON meeting in La Jolla we had just come from, and another person I think it was Brad Sorensen gave a talk on an ecology project in Santa Barbara as I recall. There was also a talk by a SARA employee on an approach to propellantless propulsion that I had helped fund with a million dollars of Joe Firmages's ISSO money a decade ago. That is bona fide work - models built in lab - no false claims were made that it was some kind of panacea to the energy crisis etc. For the record I recused myself from the financial equity meetings at SARA, I only attended the technical meetings where Gordon was silent because in fact he could not say any thing that would make sense to the engineers. I made it clear that I was only there as a fair witness on the technology. Also it needs to be understood that the technology presented to the investors that Gordon brought to the table was SARA’s bona-fide technology funded by DOD in areas of non-lethal weapons, energy conversion, C^3 drones - conventional stuff. The idea was for Gordon’s investors to fund conventional technology with a preliminary side RAM project - only on feasibility. Parviz (CEO) was very clear about this and has detailed records and a business plan showing that we were never pitching Gordon’s “theories” of “zero time vortex” the “circuit” and other techno-babble. Indeed, as I said, Gordon never said a word about it at the meetings I attended. In addition to the SARA technology, Paul Murad summarized his talk at the JASON meeting in La Jolla we had just come from, and another person I think it was Brad Sorensen gave a talk on an ecology project in Santa Barbara as I recall. There was also a talk by a SARA employee on an approach to propellantless propulsion that I had helped fund with a million dollars of Joe Firmages’s ISSO money a decade ago. That is bona fide work - models built in lab - no false claims were made that it was some kind of panacea to the energy crisis etc.

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