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Did ANY of the Billy Meier Predictions Ever Come True?

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Did ANY of the Billy Meier Predictions Ever Come True?

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For anyone who has had the misfortune of stumbling across Billy Meier predictions and UFO photographs, then you probably already know that the entire topic has been a madhouse of attacks, counter attacks and slander between skeptics and believers for many decades.

Last week I covered a brief history of the Billy Meier case, and provided a few examples of how badly Meier Cult followers fail to perform their own research – a claim they constantly level against skeptics. (The cult today is known as “FIGU”)

In our first article on Billy Meier and Michael Horn, written by our own Seamus Coogan, Meier cult followers came out in force lambasting Seamus for his article (which in my opinion used kid gloves on Meier, to be honest). They slammed Seamus for “not doing his homework”, yet they failed to offer specific examples of evidence supporting Meier’s claims, or that Meier’s predictions have ever come true.

Upon sifting through the websites of online supporters of Meier, I came across dozens of them mentioning Wendelle Stevens and other folks as credible researchers of the Meier case, but not a single one of those folks bothered to mention the 1987 Spin Magazine article by reporter Legs McNeil, revealing that Wendelle Stevens was doing time in the Arizona State Prison for pedophilia, and that Stevens lied to McNeil about his incarceration, trying to imply it was “set up” by the CIA. Court documents proved otherwise.

So what about Billy Meier predictions themselves? You would think it would be easy enough to do the research to prove or disprove whether or not specific prophecies are true? Unfortunately, as you’ll see, even though you can prove Meier’s prophecies to be blatantly false, the Meier cult and promoter Michael Horn are a very slippery bunch when it comes to maintaining their belief system, despite all evidence dismantling it.


Billy Meier Prediction #1 – Pacific Tsunami Prophecy

At the end of 2005, Oregon State University researchers published a report noting that Congress was working on legislation to give NOAA $35 million per year to improve tsunami warning systems and disaster planning. Researchers noted that the increased interest in tsunami planning was due to the 2004 Indonesia tsunami that killed more than 275,000 people.

In 2008, Michael Horn started traveling around the Internet, telling people that a Billy Meier prediction, allegedly provided prior to the OSU 2005 warning, mirrored the OSU prediction. This is a standard Michael Horn tactic – find some publication about a dire warning, and then distribute information to any “believer” website that will publish it, that Meier had made the prediction before the warning published.

Unfortunately for Horn, it’s very difficult for a non-technical person to fake publication dates. Even his own website has the publication date for this claim as 2008. Every Pro-Meier website out there also lists a publication date of this claim on or after 2008, when Horn began distributing the claim.

The reality is that the only floods mentioned in the 1958 predictions are vague references to “monstrous flooding”, without any dates or specific regions mentioned at all, certainly not the Pacific Northeast.

When a tsunami does strike the Pacific Northeast, Horn will likely instantly claim that Meier “accurately” predicted it, failing to mention that Meier’s “prediction” came in 2008, four years after the tsunami warning system was put in place in 2004.

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Billy Meier Prediction #2 – Asteroid Apophis

One of the best investigations of a Billy Meier prophecy came from Stuart Robbins of the Bad Science blog, who decided to do a thorough analysis of Michael Horn’s claim that Meier had predicted the asteroid Apophis will strike Earth in 2036.

The first thing Stuart noted was the fact that Meier’s actual prediction dated in 1981 made no mention of the Apophis asteroid, or even a date for the event, but only mentioned that a “red meteor” would wreak havoc on Earth. Nothing more.

Interestingly enough, the pattern with Asteroid Apophis follows the same pattern as the Pacific Northwest Tsunami warning. In 2004, the asteroid Apophis was officially discovered and publicly announced. In 2008 (a busy year for Horn), Meier suddenly releases “Contact Report #471″, where Meier claims having a conversation with Plejaran Ptaah, and finally specifically mentions astronomical data related to Apophis. Stuart noted the discrepancy as follows:

“Okay, so remember the timeline here: 1981 was the first mention, 2002 no new information, 2004 Apophis is found and its orbit calculated and all this other stuff, and then, FOUR YEARS LATER, Meier very directly links his red meteor with the astronomical data of Apophis, though we don’t have it by name. There was nothing connecting the two before, and Apophis isn’t exactly red, but now he’s put the red meteor together with the dates of Apophis.”

As I said, Meier and Horn are a slippery pair.

Finally, four contact reports later, Meier specifically claims that Apophis is the “Red Meteor”. This tactic is what Stuart explains as “retrodiction” – a technique that prophecy scammers constantly use.

Prediction [is] where you’re saying something will happen before it does. Retrodiction is the opposite, where you say something was going to happen after it already did, or you said something vague and then when something specific happens, you claim that vague thing was the specific happening.

Stuart further noted that Meier’s original prophecy described a “meteor”. Apophis is an asteroid. In his final analysis, Robbins concludes that until better evidence arises, this is clearly “not a valid prediction”.

Coincidentally, NASA’s scientific findings make Meier’s so-called prophecy even less likely. Initial estimates in 2007 put the pass at 49 million km (30.5 million miles) from Earth. Updated calculations in 2013 put Apophis even further away.

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Billy Meier Prediction #3 – Jupiter Moons

An IIG researcher conducted a full investigation in 2004 surrounding Meier’s various predictions from throughout his 115th Contact writings. The investigator found the following revealing facts about those so-called prophecies:

- Meier’s predictions in 1978 about the details of Jupiter were not predicted, but actually drawn from information reported publicly after Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 passed by Jupiter in the early 1970s. Scientists did not discover that Jupiter’s ring was made of small particles in 1995 as Horn claimed. That information was published in 1979.

- The investigator proved that Meier had drawn his “prediction” directly out of newspaper and magazine reports in 1979, because one of his predictions regarding Amalthea, the innermost moon, perfectly matched the incorrect information (that the moon was approximately 200 km long) published in the 1979 newspaper articles. (The moon was later determined by scientists to actually be 250-270 km long).

- Meier had copied from the media claims in 1979 that speculated (incorrectly) that Jupiter’s moon Io contained water. Meier wrote, “”the moon, Io, once was totally covered with water”. Later scientific findings revealed the truth – Io contains little to no water.

- Other predictions that the IIG researcher noted Meier as getting completely wrong (usually because he copied incorrect information from 1979 media sources) or the researcher proved Meier had obtained correct information from earlier media sources were related to facts like Io’s volcano eruptions, Io’s Plasma Torus, the rings of Jupiter, and much more. You can read the full, detailed, thorough report at the IIG West website.

The IIG researcher finally concluded:

“The fact is, the more I researched the predictive information in Billy Meier’s Contacts, the more likely it seemed that Meier copied his information from widely-available news sources.”

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Other False Prophecies of Billy Meier

IIG (Independent Investigations Group) has done a tremendous job on the Meier case. Further prophecies proved as incorrect by the group included the claim that four heads of state would die within seven days of each other, signaling the coming of World War III.

Michael Horn (not Meier or FIGU) claimed the prophecy came true in December 2006 when four heads of state died in a row. December 2008 came and went without World War III. So much for that one.

Meier predicted in Contact 251, Part 2 that a French nuclear reactor near Lyon would have an accident and that the plant would be promptly shut down. Michael Horn claimed this prophecy was proven true in August 12, 2003.

Wrong again.

IIG showed that the actual news articles referencing the Bugey nuclear power station near Lyon, France were actually referencing the danger of the nuclear plant shutting down in the midst of a heat wave, when citizens of the country were so desperately in need of its power. The facility never had an accident, and was never shut down due to any accident. Another false prophecy.

Researcher Royce Myers, III was able to prove on UFO Watchdog that a picture Billy claimed he took when he traveled back in time to the land of the dinosaurs was in fact a fuzzy, close-up of a painting by Czech artist Zdenek Burian, which appeared in the book Life Before Man.

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I wonder if the Meier folks are paying Zdenek royalties for misrepresenting his work?

A final analysis I would like to highlight was actually conducted by my good friend who went by the name of “Zep Tepi” on Reality Uncovered forums. In a discussion there, Zep pointedly asked Michael Horn about the Meier prediction which claimed that Paris would be destroyed and burned down. In an update on his website at a newsletter link called ‘nov05.htm’ (which Horn has subsequently deleted), Horn claimed that Meier’s “Paris will be destroyed” prophecy came true following the Paris riots of October 2005.

During those riots, nearly 9,000 vehicles were torched, nearly 3,000 people were arrested, and 126 police officers were injured. Zep pointedly asked Michael Horn how he could describe such an event – which was admittedly destructive – as the destruction of Paris predicted by Meier.

Horn’s only answer was to state that prophecies could be altered if people make “course corrections” to alter the probable outcomes. He failed to specifically explain why he had claimed Meier’s prophecy had come true, when it clearly hadn’t. The fact that he also deleted that page from his website speaks volumes as well.

Originally published on TopSecretWriters.com

  • Arch

    Since you mentioned Dr. Robbins’ work with the Apohpis asteroid, is it okay to mention that he did a >1 hr-long podcast episode looking into alleged prophetic “knowledge” about Jupiter and Saturn — stuff written by Meier and claimed as prophecies by Horn and others? The link is here: http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/shownotes_090.php

    The conclusion was that, like all the other claimed prophecies, the material was either already known about before Meier wrote it or was vague enough to be retrodicted afterwards.

    He was also much more lenient with the comments on his blog about it (http://wp.me/pjMYE-yh) allowing Michael Horn and others to go on and on, never actually disproving anything, but battling against little bits that make everything more vague and less specific and “prophetically accurate,” at best.

    I commend the moderators here for keeping the conversation on-topic, and I look forward to seeing if ANY of Meier’s followers will provide SPECIFIC refutations to anything you wrote.

  • http://terrythecensor.blogspot.com/ terry the censor

    I had a similar experience with the Toronto branch of the Aetherius Society, which claims to have received cosmic wisdom, channeled from aliens.

    Last year we went to a lecture where the speaker claimed to have PROOF of the society’s claims. These proofs used outdated and disproven theories about the asteroid belt (they claimed it had been a planet at one time). These proofs included channeled knowledge of unpublished events (we later found news articles showing that these events had in fact been published). And best of all, the speaker (silently) re-wrote the group founder’s claim of active civilizations on Mars and Venus (the speaker changed this to “on the etheric plane” of Mars and Venus. The Unarius Society made the same switch in the ’70s).

    My friend wrote it up, posted it online, and put the link on the society’s Facebook page — a link which they deleted over and over and over again. An Aetherius Society executive did comment on my friend’s post, though in a manner that would not surprise you. He did not address a single criticism from my friend’s post, instead arguing that my friend was simply not openminded to Aetherian proofs.

    http://www.skepticnorth.com/2012/01/toronto-aetherius-society-jesus-venusians-and-some-bad-astronomy-part-1/

  • http://terrythecensor.blogspot.com/ terry the censor

    I had a similar experience with the Toronto branch of the Aetherius Society, which claims to have received cosmic wisdom, channeled from aliens.

    Last year we went to a lecture where the speaker claimed to have PROOF of the society’s claims. These proofs used outdated and disproven theories about the asteroid belt (they claimed it had been a planet at one time). These proofs included channeled knowledge of unpublished events (we later found news articles showing that these events had in fact been published). And best of all, the speaker (silently) re-wrote the group founder’s claim of active civilizations on Mars and Venus (the speaker changed this to “on the etheric plane” of Mars and Venus. The Unarius Society made the same switch in the ’70s).

    My friend wrote it up, posted it online, and put the link on the society’s Facebook page — a link which they deleted over and over and over again. An Aetherius Society executive did comment on my friend’s post, though in a manner that would not surprise you. He did not address a single criticism from my friend’s post, instead arguing that my friend was simply not openminded to Aetherian proofs.

    http://www.skepticnorth.com/2012/01/toronto-aetherius-society-jesus-venusians-and-some-bad-astronomy-part-1/

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Not sure exactly what your point is here Franklin…are you saying if that you’re okay with the fact that Meier has been copying all of his predictions out of news reports dated *before* his predictions….because some of the news reports he copied were correct in their facts?

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Unbelievable.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Are you sure Figu has never claimed they can demonstrate this to be true?

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Absolutely – thanks for the additional information on Dr. Robbins’ work.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Nope – NASA beat Meier by 3 years. Sorry. The finding in 2005 was “350 meters”, which is precisely what Meier “predicted” in 2008. Now you’re trying to say the updated finding in 2013 “proves” Meier…which is completely absurd. Meier didn’t predict anything, he simply reported what was already published about Apophis at the time (3 years prior actually). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis

    “Based upon the observed brightness, Apophis’s diameter was initially estimated at 450 metres (1,480 ft); a more refined estimate based on spectroscopic observations at NASA’s Infrared Telescope Facility in Hawaii by Binzel, Rivkin, Bus, and Tokunaga (2005) is 350 metres (1,150 ft).”

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Thankfully, with predictions it’s easy. The claim needs to be recorded and dated in a manner that can’t be changed later. Meier has never passed this test. You said it best here:

    “….but when these predictions aren’t published before the event it cannot be demonstrated.”

    Very true!

  • Cmonc

    Yeah. We’re going trough all the material to check if there are any though. There are hundreds of alleged prophecies/predictions (if you look at the alleged contact report date) and it’s a long process to figure out the exact publication dates.

    My impression until now is that it’s mostly Michael Horn who claims very loudly he can prove all kinds of prophecies etc. while most of them have been published after the event. He’s taking a far too aggressive line IMO. He should back up and check things out better.

  • Cmonc

    Yeah. We’re going trough all the material to check if there are any though. There are hundreds of alleged prophecies/predictions (if you look at the alleged contact report date) and it’s a long process to figure out the exact publication dates.

    My impression until now is that it’s mostly Michael Horn who claims very loudly he can prove all kinds of prophecies etc. while most of them have been published after the event. He’s taking a far too aggressive line IMO. He should back up and check things out better.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    I agree – but I think there’s too much money wrapped up in his business venture surrounding Meier. Have you seen the sales page on his site?

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    I agree – but I think there’s too much money wrapped up in his business venture surrounding Meier. Have you seen the sales page on his site?

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Mostly because of his marketing tactics. If his only interest was to “spread the word”, he would be focused on marketing his website to areas of the Internet and keyword topics that are focused on things like alien visitations, alien contacts, etc… Reach out to the community of people having such experiences and then spread Meier’s words to those people in need of it. No – instead Horn spams the whole range of sites that even vaguely mention Meier in an effort to direct their traffic to his site. I’ve even seen him market his site to search-phrases like “Meier hoaxed pictures” or “Meier fake photos” – as you can see by the misleading titles on a lot of his pages. These are the actions of a marketing guru, not a simple believer trying to “spread the word”. As far as actual sales numbers – not yet, but we’re working on it, and the # of products on the sales page, combined with the number of believers across the Internet, implies healthy profits.

  • Cmonc

    You could
    also argue that he wastes a lot of time on people who will not buy his stuff anyway. If he would only ‘preach to the choir’ you could argue that he focuses only
    on people who might buy his stuff, so IMO it’s not a very decisive argument.

    I think that MH is actually a ‘true believer’ and really wants to spread the word. However, since he has also been a salesman, marketing is in his bones, so he often gets overexcited, jumps to conclusions that support his case without proper investigation, blows
    things out of proportion and isn’t very receptive for counter arguments. Also because of his nature he has no problem making some coin out of it, though I
    don’t know whether his profits are reasonable or not.

  • http://terrythecensor.blogspot.com/ terry the censor

    > it’s not a very decisive argument

    And yet it happens!

    Not too long ago, Horn hijacked a comments section at Jason Colavito’s site. The subject was UFO disclosure and the law. Nothing remotely related to Meier was being discussed. But one of the commentors must have used a keyword that popped up in Horn’s personal Google alerts. He was soon in, promoting a recent interview he’d done. He followed that with a blatently fake attempt to address the topic by making the broad statement, “I have contempt for the circus that is the ‘UFO industry,’ which does
    everything it can to direct attention AWAY from the Meier case…” Hardly on topic. Just more self-promotion.

    I pointed this out to him…and away we went.

    http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/10/lawyers-ufo-disclosure-and-apocalyptic-expectations.html

    The man is an opportunistic jackass, not a true believer.

  • Cmoncg

    Read it… omg, have to agree with
    you. MH is out of line here, vastly overplaying his hand, like he does far too
    often IMO. As an European guy I kinda have the impression that this bombastic
    style is a bit of an American trade, maybe that also has to do with it. But, that doesn’t necessarily
    mean he’s only in for the money. He could both be a true believer and an ‘opportunistic jackass’, as you put it. It
    happens so often that someone is initially blown away by something or has ‘an
    experience’, starts fiercely promote his convictions and isn’t very receptible
    for critique or counterarguments anymore. On the other hand, I believe Figu
    also dumped Randy Winters because he was commercialising the whole case, MH
    sort of replaced him as representative of the case.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Hi – while I understand the need to defend Meier and protect your beliefs, please research the scientific history of the moon – well researched by NASA over many years (Unlike the Earth, the Moon does not have a significant magnetic field, and it has no significant atmosphere. Its unprotected regolith is thus constantly being bombarded by the solar wind. The Sun continuously embeds chemical elements, such as hydrogen ions, into the lunar surface. Thus, by studying the surface of the Moon, scientists can learn a lot about the Sun.)

    “Unlike the Earth, the Moon does not have a significant magnetic field, and it has no significant atmosphere. Its unprotected regolith is thus constantly being bombarded by the solar wind. The Sun continuously embeds chemical elements, such as hydrogen ions, into the lunar surface. Thus, by studying the surface of the Moon, scientists can learn a lot about the Sun.”

    Without an atmosphere from its very first creation (impact theory) – there is no way liquid water could have ever existed on the moon from the very first moment it was formed.

  • Arch

    “Guest” — Nothing you have said actually refutes anything here. We are not talking about “spiritual” teachings. Nor are we defaming Meier (using the definition of defamation = slander or libel), for the truth is always something that nullifies a defamation suit.

    This is really quite straight-forward: Meier said several specific things. An objective investigation into their validity shows they are wrong (are false or did not come true). Therefore, he was wrong in his statements. The only way his followers have been able to try to wiggle out of showing that he could possibly have been right is to claim a vast conspiracy, like claiming the Men in Black replaced Meier’s photos of Asket and Nera (sp?) with the girls from the Dean Martin Variety Show, but Meier didn’t realize it until decades later when skeptics pointed out they were the same. That kind of conspiratorial special pleading doesn’t fly with most people, especially when one has to invent it for every single claim that skeptics have debunked.

    Meier made the claim. It is up to him to back it up, or his followers to back it up, it is not up to me to go through and try to find validity in something that has ben shown to not be valid.

  • justsayno

    Wikipedia can be changed or updated at any time and everyone knows that. How disingenuous.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Yes, but actual NASA history and records confirm it. Meier was wrong. Case closed.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    “Contact Reports” are constantly edited and dated after the fact. They are written after the event. We’ve proven this thoroughly, which means none of the contact reports (particularly more recent ones) can really be trusted to have authentic publication dates listed. That’s the heart of the whole scam.

  • justsayno

    That does change the fact that I read the contact report long before you even knew there was a problem. I even sent out a real time jet stream website to those I love. What did you do? Let me ask you a question when were you aware of how bad Fukushima really was? And be honest.

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Right, so you expect readers to basically take the word of a random anonymous person who signed his name here as “justsayno” as proof.

  • justsayno

    A true believer of what?

  • http://www.topsecretwriters.com Ryan Dube

    Wrong. No surface water has ever been found. Check your facts, because no legitimate scientist would ever claim the moon “once was totally covered with water” as Meier laimed. Scientists who discovered water-ice under the surface have three main theories, NONE of which involve past water on the surface as Meier stated. “Several theories have been put forward to explain the origin of the water, including debris from comet impacts, interaction of the lunar surface with the solar wind, and even giant molecular clouds passing through the solar system, Delory said.” (Space.com)

  • http://terrythecensor.blogspot.com/ terry the censor

    > when were you aware of how bad Fukushima really was?

    Let me guess: when it was hit by a tsunami maybe?

    Justsayno, you don’t realise how ridiculous you sound.

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