Before I get started with this article, I want to make it very clear that I am in no way anti-conspiracy theorists.
In fact, the entire reason I started TopSecretWriters was to dig up and expose very real, and very troubling corruption and conspiracy theories created and pursued by government entities, corporate elitists and anyone else that seeks to diminish American freedom, and abuse human rights.
This is why we’ve devoted a weekly feature to the abuses of the Chinese government.
It is why we dove so deeply into the government’s potential role in the creation of Lyme disease.
It is why we’ve tried to create awareness surrounding the very real dangers of HAARP and the power imbalance that could come from it’s technology.
It is also why we’ve focused on the possibility that the FBI most likely lied about the Iceland tipster in the Whitey Bulger case.
The truth is, there is very real corruption out there, and there are very real conspiracies.
True researchers not only track down leads in FOIA documents and by conducting interviews – but more importantly they do not jump to conclusions based on shabby evidence. True conspiracy researchers remain honest with readers and viewers regarding what is actually known, and what remains unknown.
Unfortunately, these are lessons that Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones have never learned.
Conspiracy Theory Episode on the Future “Police State”
In a 2010 Conspiracy Theory episode, host Jesse Ventura explores the possibility of a “police state” being planned for in the United States in the near future.
Alongside Alex Jones, Ventura explores potential sites set up as future “concentration camps”.
He and Alex Jones show viewers huge piles of “coffins” that are being stored for future mass genocides, and they attempt to convince viewers that the post 9-11 “fusion centers” are spying on every American that dares to speak a single word against the government.
They are all lies. And I am sick of it.
It does legitimate conspiracy researchers, like many of you reading this article today, a great disservice to spread fear-mongering and disinformation in an effort to increase ratings and create misdirected fear among the American population.
At a time when it is critical that the American people receive the most accurate and authentic information regarding the actions of their government and of corrupt corporations, spreading this kind of shoddy investigative filth is anti-American and plain wrong.
It’s as simple as that.
Dismantling the Jesse Ventura Police State Lies
It is unfortunately that we should have to waste time providing evidence that Ventura and Alex Jones are delivering misinformation.
After all, efforts should be focused on exposing true conspiracies and corruption throughout the government and throughout the corporations that maintain a stranglehold over the American political system.
However, it is important to set the record straight. By debunking these two disinformation goons, we will all come one step closer to the truth.
There were three core theories (among others) that Ventura offered to his viewers in the 2010 Conspiracy Theory episode on the allegedly planned future police state.
(1) The idea that the 72 “fusion centers” set up after 9-11 are unmanaged intelligence collection centers that are gathering intelligence about American citizens and placing any “subversive elements” – including you or I – on the government watch list if we so much as speak a word against “big brother”.
(2) That massive concentration camps are being built in preparation to house (imprison) American families in the future police state scenario.
(3) That there are plans for the release of a massive plague among the U.S. population, which will be used as a precursor for enacting the future police state.
I want to make it clear, right now, that hardly a single claim offered in Jesse Ventura’s “Police State” episode held up to even the least bit of honest scrutiny.
In fact, they were all either outright lies, or a gross manipulation of the truth meant as nothing more than fear mongering. Both Ventura and Alex Jones should be ashamed of themselves.
The 72 Fusion Centers
In the eposide, Ventura claimed that the fusion centers across the country are not being managed by the federal government, nor is there any sort of watchdog group enacted to protect American civil liberties.
According to information TopSecretWriters obtained from Department of Homeland Security documentation:
“Since the beginning of 2010, the Department of Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A), the Department’s lead for support to fusion centers, deployed an additional 18 personnel to fusion centers, bringing the total deployment to 64 Intelligence Officers and 9 Regional Directors in the field. I&A also worked aggressively to deploy Homeland Secure Data Network (HSDN) to a total of 56 fusion centers. HSDN provides SECRET-level connectivity to enhance the ability of state and local partners to receive federally generated classified threat information.”
Apparently, Ventura and Jones do not consider the Department of Homeland Security to be “the federal government.”
In fact, the effort by the DHS in creating these centers was to allow local law enforcement to respond more quickly whenever someone is spotted casing out a bridge, a bank, or a highrise building as part of planning for another terrorist attack.
Ventura and Jones would like you to believe that by staying vigilant for suspicious people taking pictures of bridge support structures, or taking measurements of building foundation footings, that the fusion center personnel are also somehow monitoring every American citizen that dares to take a photo in a public place or that speaks a word against the government.
If that were the case, honestly, I would have been locked up 3 years ago, as would most of the conspiracy theorists that I know.
In fact, the fusion centers are far less secretive or hidden than Ventura and Jones would like you to believe. You can learn about the locations of all of them right on the DHS website. No one is trying to hide them!
Furthermore, the Department of Homeland Security tried so hard to respect civil liberties that in 2008 the agency asked for review of the Civil Liberties impact of the fusion centers. The impact assessment was reviewed by Daniel Sutherland, the Officer for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties and is openly available to the public. All important matters of civil rights are taken into account in the review.
The T. Don Hutto Residential Center
In probably the most comical part of the episode, Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones offer panning camera views of the sprawling T. Don Hutto Residential Center in Taylor, Texas.
The view of the main sign for the facility was a mere half a second…in fact I had to put the video in slow motion in order to catch the name of the facility that Jones and Ventura were portraying as a future concentration camp for Americans in a future police state.
The facility that they were portraying as such was nothing more than the T. Don Hutto Residential Center for female illegal immigrants that have been detained pending processing and possible deportation to their home countries.
The size of the complex can be explained by the sheer size of the immigration problem in this country. The fact that it is a “residential center” is obvious from the fact that the facility was set up as a way to offer the female inmates a relatively comfortable place to live while awaiting trial for deportation.
In the film, Jones and Ventura portray the facility as part of some massive human rights conspiracy. The irony is that the very existence of the facility was an effort to provide these immigrants with even greater human rights than they would have otherwise had available.
The CCA describes the facility as a: “Female, Minimum-Security, Owned since 1996”
The DHS describes the purpose of the facility as:
“In keeping with the director’s call for civil detention reform, TDHRC represents a clear departure from historical detention settings. Residents experience expanded services that include free and open movement, recreational and educational participation, food services and medical and mental health care.
TDHRC’s person-centered philosophy guides every interaction with the residents by understanding the often complex circumstances surrounding their detention. TDHRC continues to fulfill the mission of ICE while at the same time recognizing and valuing the dignity of the individual.”
The most idiotic part of Ventura’s “Police State” video was when he and Alex Jones went up to the front doors to confront the staff about the facility.
A spokeswoman came outside to talk to Alex and Jesse. The surreal conversation revealed just how clueless Jesse and Alex really were concerning the facility….actually it revealed just how clueless the are overall.
Ventura to the spokeswoman: “…..I’ve never seen a ‘residential center’ that has two sets of fences going around. It looks identical to a prison to me.”
When asking the spokeswoman why the doors were locked and why he couldn’t get in to talk to a receptionist, the spokeswoman respectfully answered that it’s to, “Protect the identities of the residents that are inside.”
She continued, “I’d be more than happy to forward your questions to the folks at ICE.”
Ventura: “And ICE is?”
Spokeswoman: “Immigration and Customs Enforcement”
Alex Jones: “And that’s part of the Department of Homeland Security?”
Woman: “Yes Sir…”
I’m completely serious….you can’t make this stuff up. This transcript was taken directly from the video.
Alex and Jesse not only appeared completely clueless that the facility housed Illegal immigrants awaiting deportation, but they didn’t even know what ICE was.
For Alex Jones, so long as ICE is a branch of DHS, that’s all he needed to confirm his delusions that the facility has some sort of other, darker purpose.
The Mountains of “Coffins”
In an even more comical scene, Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura creep through the forest to the edge of an open storage area where there are very large, black plastic containers piled about 25 containers high all in rows.
The location was Madison, Georgia on the side of Interstate 20 near train tracks.
While staring at the containers, Alex Jones explains to Jesse that the “coffins” are part of the CDC effort to make preparations for “plagues and mega-death” scenarios.
So what were the containers?
In April of 2009, Popular Mechanics had already published a fantastic expose that revealed these “coffins” were nothing more than black polypropylene burial vaults made by Vantage Products of Convington, Ga.
The vaults are used by many cemetery managers to prevent the collapse of the ground around the buried caskets, ultimately as a way to protect the casket itself from collapsing and getting destroyed after burial.
Ventura filmed the Vantage storage lot in Madison in an effort to present the “prearranged” units as some vast storage facility utilized by the CDC in their genocide conspiracy efforts.
What Jones failed to tell Ventura is the fact that over 900,000 such units are used in the United States each year and that nearly 50,000 units need to be stored at any given time.
The company confirmed to Popular Mechanics that they often manufacture and store 50,000 such vaults at a time in Madison in preparation for the orders. All product sales are well-accounted for and documented.
Why do Ventura and Jones Fear Monger With Lies?
I would be hypocritical to say that creating fear is wrong. In exposing many of the conspiracies that we uncover here at TopSecretWriters, we unfortunately do create fear. Fear of corruption. Fear of human rights abuses. Fear of civil liberties abuses.
There are plenty of examples of very real abuses throughout the government, throughout corporations and throughout the world, so it seems inconceivable that Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura see the need to fabricate these sort of outlandish conspiracy theories.
I’m not sure I really understand their motives.
I suppose it’s possible that they are serving the interests of the Corporate entities that own the media companies that fund the production of their shows (Time Warner runs TruTV, in case you’re wondering).
Maybe by making Americans fear lies and myth, it is a perfect distraction to keep Americans from seeing the truth.
By fearing the shadows, Americans will be too preoccupied to uncover the true corruption and conspiracy.
That may be what they hope, anyway.
The real question is how many Americans are willing and able to see through the hype and the lies distributed by these corporate puppets?