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10 Weird Mormon Beliefs Hidden And Not Publicly Talked About

While every religion has its own beliefs, traditions and customs that seem somewhat unbelievable to outsiders and non-believers, the Mormons have their fair share of unique values. What makes the Mormon beliefs particularly out of the ordinary is that Mormons dedicate so much time and energy trying to help non-Mormons.

Editor’s Note: Before reviewing this article, please read through our article about the Underground Mormon Genealogy Database, where TSW explores the unusual underground vault – evidence of another unusual Mormon belief that the dead can be baptized as Mormon, and even when they were never Mormon or expressed any desire to be Mormon when alive.

Mormons are essentially Christian people, who belong to the “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” (LDS). The LDS church was founded in 1830 by Joseph Smith. While Mormons fundamentally identify as Christians, some of their beliefs diverge from mainstream Christianity, such as the central belief that God speaks to children.

Unlike true Christianity, Mormon beliefs include the Book of Mormon as well as the Bible. One of the most glaring differences between Mormonism and Christianity is that Mormon doctrine asserts that God was once an ordinary human being who once lived on earth like an everyday man. (1)

In placing a huge emphasis on the family and taking care of one another, it doesn’t seem surprising that there are approximately 7 million Mormons in the United States and it is the fastest growing religion in North America. (2)

In emphasizing family values and involving people in communities, non-Mormons can largely relate to these central aspects of Mormon beliefs. There are however many facets of the Mormon religion that are not as “believable” or as easily related to and some that are not publicly admitted to.

Five Strange Mormon Beliefs

Multiple Worlds with Multiple Gods

Mormons have a unique view on cosmology and believe that God created many planets and that each planet has its own God. The Mormon religion goes even further, stating that if you are a good person you will be rewarded by being a God on your own planet. (3)


Tithing is rarely mandatory in religion, but Mormonism theology asserts that in order to make it to the highest kingdom in heaven; you are required to pay 10% of your gross income (tithes) to the church.

Multiple Heavens

Talking about heaven, whilst Christianity believes that there is only heaven, the Mormon beliefs include three heavens that are hierarchical based on how good you were as a human being.

Children Should Not Play with Friends on Sunday

In a speech made in St. Peter’s Square in June 2012, the Pope told his audience:

“By defending Sunday, one defends human freedom.” (4)

If you go to a largely Catholic country such as Spain, you will notice that very few places are open on a Sunday, unlike the United Kingdom, for example, where shopping on a Sunday has become very much like every other day.

Mormon theology is similar to Catholicism in the sense that it proclaims that Sundays must be a day of rest dedicated to God and the family. Although Mormonism takes this even further by insisting that no TV can be viewed on Sundays and that children are not allowed to play with their friends on the “day of rest”.

Dark Skin Turns White

It wasn’t until 1978 when black men could be given priesthood in the LDS church. Some have accused Mormonism of preaching white supremacy. One Mormone doctrine that is not publicly talked about is that if you have dark skin and convert to Mormonism, your skin will become white. (5) Of course, not all Mormons believe or even know about these hidden elements.

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Five More Unusual Mormon Beliefs

The LDS Temple Marriage

If you want to be with your spouse in the afterlife, according to Mormon faith, your marriage ceremony must be undertaken in the LDS Temple. All marriages that take place outside the LDS Temple are considered inferior.

Coffee and Tea is Prohibited

As drinking coffee seems to be an integral part of presidential campaigning and being in office, we are sure self-confessed Mormon Mitt Romney found this aspect of Mormonism difficult to adhere to in the 2012 US presidential elections, if he even knew about this lesser known Mormon doctrine that is. According to the website, Life After Mormonism, coffee and tea, and for some families all caffeinated drinks, are prohibited under Mormonism. (5)

Love Isn’t as Strong for Non-Mormons

Any religion that suggests that the love felt between spouses and families of “outsiders” is not as strong as those within its own faith is guaranteed to raise eyebrows. The suggestion that the love bond isn’t as strong between couples and families who are not LDS has been made and, given its absurdity, is hardly surprising that it is one component Mormons would rather keep a secret.

The Earth is 7,000 Years Old

While there has been no official statement made by the LDS church stating the age of the planet, many Mormons believe that planet earth is thousands of years old as opposed to the billions of years that is widely accepted by the world of science. This is also a belief held by creationist scientists. Those who believe in a younger planet earth point to examples from the Mount Saint Helens eruption and carbon dating inconsistencies. Other scientists theorize that the earth is millions of years old.

Dinosaur Bones Came from Other Planets

The LDS Church Institute teaches that fossilized dinosaur bones came from other creatures living on other planets that were destroyed when Earth was created. (6)

Editor’s Note:

At TSW, we’ve always covered the topic of unusual beliefs, and try to explore them from the mindset of someone that lives outside of the perspective of anyone inside of the community that believes in those things. The reason for this is that it’s the only way to be able to see the forest for the trees. However, many Mormons have pointed out in the comments section that the article is too heavily focused upon things that non-Mormons believe about the Mormon religion which, these people claim, are mostly entirely untrue.

Since the publication of this article, we’ve had a constant barrage of people within the Mormon religion attacking Gabrielle, and attacking Top Secret Writers for the publication of this article. Thankfully, we’ve also had former members of LDS arrive to provide their perspective as well and confirming that much of this is absolutely true – but there are many things the Mormon leadership do not want discussed publicly. This is interesting enough to warrant an interview with former members of the Church, to explore just how this effort to suppress information is conducted (and whether the suppression really exists, of course).

Please note: Going forward, any and all future comments making blanket attacks against the author of this article or this website, will be removed. Please focus on discussing specific issues/information inside of the article, and please provide evidence or sources to support your side of the debate. Provide comments with sources 24 hrs to be approved, as links get auto-marked for review. I will approve them all so long as they are part of a mature discussion about these issues. Attack/derogatory comments toward the author or this website will be automatically deleted and the user will be banned. I realize this topic is extremely sensitive for many – but that doesn’t mean the debate/discussion about the reality or non-reality of specific beliefs can’t be maturely discussed and proven or debunked. Thank you.

References & Image Credits:
(1) Theology Web
(2) US News
(4) Catholic News
(5) Life After Mormonism
(6) Personal Finance Affjoy
(7) San Diego Shooter via photopin cc
(8) Marjorie Lipan via photopin cc

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  • You forgot to mention that all (practicing LDS) adult males over the age of 18 are, by default, given priesthood in the Mormon church.

  • Guess Again

    In the LDS seminary, we are taught that dinosaurs were here BEFORE Adam and Eve. Furthermore, to say that it is a lesser known Mormon value that coffee and tea are prohibited is pure and utter nonsense. As painful as it may be, do some research. It tends to make you look less moronic.

  • Guess Again

    Again. Nonsense. A male receives the Aaronic preisthood at the age of 12. No person receives the preisthood by default. The person MUST be found worthy by the church. NOTHING happens by default.

  • Jack

    My favorite is the baptism of the dead which they base off a verse which is misinterpreted in 1 Corinthians. The Book of Mormon constantly contradicts the bible. It is written in king James English for some reason (they didn’t speak it in the 1800s and it certainly wouldn’t have been king James English on the plates). Their views about the new world inhabitants are completely void of evidence. All the ancient peoples in the Old Testament have archeological evidence. No evidence for the lamenites and certainly not the nephites. The BoM also talks about horses and steel yet it is a common fact that those things didn’t arrive until much later. The best is that their rituals are based off Masonic rituals and most Mormons have no idea. The underwear they wear even has the compass and ruler on each nipple: the symbol of masonry

  • I’m not sure what’s more shocking: The inaccuracies, the poor selection of references, or the atrocious writing style.

  • Yeah, um, every single one of your assertions was WRONG. You took a tiny bit of information and then wrote your own fairy tale about it.
    I thought a 10 year old wrote this.

  • Jack: “All the ancient peoples in the Old Testament have archeological evidence.” Does that include the giants that are mentioned in genesis? Or how about the 10 tribes that have been lost for centuries?

  • 1) We do not believe that every planet created has it’s own God.
    2) Tithing is a commandment. Just like any commandment, if you don’t follow it, you shouldn’t be surprised if you don’t get to live with Heavenly Father in the next life.
    3) Three degrees of Glory, based on where you actually want to be. A person who told one lie in their life shouldn’t have to live for eternity with a murderer.
    4) Where’s your evidence of no playing on Sundays? Because I have a quote from our last prophet, President Hinckley that says keeping the Sabbath day holy doesn’t mean locking our kids in the house.
    5) Joseph Smith ordained the first black man to the priesthood in 1836. Many black men had the priesthood before 1978. And, the reason ‘not all mormons know about this’ (referring to your statment)
    is because it isn’t true.
    6) ?Inferior? No. Civil marriages are until death do you part. That means as soon as one of you dies, you are no longer married. Does that mean you won’t see them in the next life? No. It just means you won’t be married to them.
    7) Prohibited? We have the right to choose to follow this commandment or not. Just like any other commandment. We are also told that it actually isn’t good for our bodies.
    8) “Love Isn’t as Strong for Non-Mormons” I want your evidence for this claim.
    9) Remember this part that you posted, “there has been no official statement made by the LDS church stating the age of the planet”
    Really, that was the best you had?
    10) I want your evidence for this claim, as well.

  • I disagree – everything listed in this article is well supported with quality sources at the end of the article (and sourced throughout). Based on the immaturity of your comment, it’s more like a 10 year old wrote your comment.

  • I’ll let US News know you don’t consider them to be a valid source.

  • There isn’t a single LDS Source, it seems if you were making points about what members of the church believe you’d expect at least one LDS source used to support the conclusions. The fact that Terri was able to point out the error in the conclusions the author makes on every point only further underscores the lack of research and credibility demonstrated by this article.

  • Citing sources is one thing, citing credible sources is another…citing sources accurately is likewise an all together different skill set. Terri has outlined how the points made are grossly inaccurate,

  • Jack: “All the ancient peoples in the Old Testament have archeological evidence.” Does that include the giants that are mentioned in genesis? Or how about the 10 tribes that have been lost for centuries?

  • I disagree – quality is everything. We specifically avoid citing sources that are particularly biased against or in favor of certain beliefs. I would consider an article about what Catholics believe to be far more balanced if it contains factual and unbiased sources from theologists that study religion, rather than people that strongly believe something, and want the world to believe that what they believe is true.

  • Terri outlines positions/opinions about personal beliefs – nothing posted calls into question the accuracy of the article and what experts and historians describe as the long-running beliefs of the religion. I realize that there’s a deep-seated need to discredit anything that paints one’s personal religion in a somewhat negative light, but that doesn’t make it so.

  • “We specifically avoid citing sources that are particularly biased against or in favor of certain beliefs.” Life After Mormonism is clearly an anti-Mormon site so your perspective is already called into question by your own evidence. More than that were talking point of doctrine, not history and not anything the church would be prone to be less than upfront about. It’s not a question of Bias to ask a Mormon what Mormons are taught as doctrine, that’s called recognizing a first hand source. In fact, I’m shocked you haven’t asked for some clarity from our vantage point since it’s clear that the veracity of this post has been called into question by the very people it professes to be a report about.

  • This isn’t a question of discrediting the article…it’s a clear and articulated call to prove unsubstantiated material that was presented, and an equal clear presentation of what Mormons really believe instead of the fictional account presented here.

  • Wendell Welling

    And that would matter because?

  • Wendell Welling

    Ryan, for all your claiming that certain things are “secret” or “hidden” you haven’t brought one single new thing to light here. Members of the Church are slapping their knees laughing at this article right now. Your use of loaded terms such as “forbidden” and the like is so comical and overwrought that it renders your article a joke. As a member I have been dealing with this silliness from non Mormons my whole life and you call it ‘secret?” It’s really just the same old expose’ as yesterday and it wasn’t accurate then. Why are you so stubborn as to not realize that Mormon’s know their religion better than you do? Isn’t it quite a bit of hubris to claim the opposite? And since when do Mormon’s believe we have stronger love ties, or consider other marriages inferior? Believing that a marriage can be sealed for eternity doesn’t make other marriages inferior, it makes them worth maintaining. That is the goal in LDS theology, to continue bonds that exist, not to look down at other relationships. Why insist on contributing to misunderstandings and discord? You most definitely have produced a caricature masquerading as a factual article.

  • Because they are, obviously. To imply the sources aren’t legit is just grasping at straws.

  • Wendell Welling

    Jack, I can state categorically that our garments do not have nipples. I don’t know where you could have gotten that one from. As for the Book of Mormon contradicting the Bible all over the place, that is ridiculous. And, we don’t baptize the dead. We baptize for them. They being aware of their surrounding on the other side of the veil can accept or reject the ordinance. It is a proxy ordinance, and other Christian religions have their own ways of doing something for the deceased. Further, we don’t BASE baptism for the dead on 1 Corinthians 15:29 as you state. We do use that verse to show that Paul was aware of it during his time. The fact is that the ordinance was only officially stopped by a Catholic Council in the later fourth Century. To say that this rite has always been peculiar to Mormons belies the fact that you haven’t studied it beyond the bare surface.

  • Actually – the “old expose'” was actually pretty accurate as well – although I can completely understand why someone of a particular faith under question would feel the need to be defensive about those revelations. Why insist on confirming those revelations and repeating them here? Because the truth – however painful for many to accept – deserves repeating.

  • Wendell Welling

    By default? Really? No interviews, no commitment, no necessity of evidencing any desire at all to be ordained? The comments on this thread are beyond hilarious.

  • “And, we don’t baptize the dead. We baptize for them. They being aware of their surrounding on the other side of the veil can accept or reject the ordinance.”

    That’s the most ludicrous thing I’ve ever heard, and is simply an approach of justifying a practice that is unjustifiable.

  • I notice you ignore the use of an anti-Mormon source while completely ignoring Mormon sources and how credible historians use those same documents in arguments against the church on a regular basis…

  • Tell me about it!
    Tell me Wendell, in order to insure that one is not mistakenly perceived as desiring to “accept ordinance” after death, does one need to make out a living will? “Please do not allow Mormons to baptize me after death….” or something like that?

  • Mormons believe all individuals will have baptism performed on their behalf at some point, in fact, that’s a large part of the work that will be done during the millennium. Again, if you think it’s a worthless practice what difference does it make?

  • The problem is the percentage of truth presented is pretty small. Do you need me to go point by point and cite sources as well? I’d be happy to if have an honest portrayal of the LDS belief system is something you wish to achieve.

  • Yes – I’d be more than happy to publish a follow-up article with a counter-balance to this article, and I’d even link to it from this one. It would need to be between 500 to 800 words with claims supported by sources – email me at

  • swattz101

    For the current practice of Baptism by Proxy, the names must be submitted by a family member. Can be a distant family member, and some people do abuse this idea. This was put in place because of people submitting famous names, and partially because people were upset when it was found out that holocaust victims were baptized. There are procedures in place to try and make this happen, but unfortunately, people try and sometimes succeed at getting past them.

    As for the baptism itself, we believe that everyone will have the chance to accept the ordinance in the afterlife. They also have the ability to deny it. Yes people are still offended. And even if you have a living will, 100 years from now, your great great great grand nephew may not have access to it or ignore it, unfortunately.

  • Evertsen1010

    Wow that sounds like the argument of a ten year old once again. The response you give is ridiculous. Who tought you to write? Where did you go to school. I want to know so I know where my children should not attend.

  • Evertsen1010

    That does not sound biased at all. Here is a suggestion. Visit a ward and interview a Bishop. You need to be educated an well versed on religions in order to write on them. This article is the worst thing I have ever read. I have spent time debating with religious leaders and if any of us were to write an unfounded completely one sided rant we would be unwelcome in any educational institution for lecture. You should be ashamed and distance your self from this article as far as possible.

  • Evertsen1010

    Stick to your UFO stories. Leave real research to real writers. Your a so called engineer. Do you not have anything more important to do. Maybe you are a horrible engineer much like your investigative writing? Time to find what your good at and stick with that? What researchers did you work with? What websites did you help? Weird how you don’t name any names there on your bio, but I guess citing stuff is not your strong suit huh?

  • Anonymous

    Well, I have to assume that this posting, on a subject with which I am well acquainted, is indicative of the professionalism and quality of this source. With that assumption in mind I can say that I have rarely encountered a more one-sided, error-filled, bigoted account of what Mormons believe. It is completely ridiculous and filled with intentional misinformation and lies. I am appalled at the bald-faced disregard for accuracy portrayed by this article and am forced to conclude that I can have no confidence in the accuracy of any other article I find on the “Top Secret Writers” site. It impresses me as being an extremely amateur and juvenile collection of people with hidden agendas and no concern for presenting truth. I would be embarrassed to present such drivel to the world as an example of my craftsmanship.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I have to assume that this posting, on a subject with which I am well acquainted, is indicative of the professionalism and quality of this source. With that assumption in mind I can say that I have rarely encountered a more one-sided, error-filled, bigoted account of what Mormons believe. It is completely ridiculous and filled with intentional misinformation and lies. I am appalled at the bald-faced disregard for accuracy portrayed by this article and am forced to conclude that I can have no confidence in the accuracy of any other article I find on the “Top Secret Writers” site. It impresses me as being an extremely amateur and juvenile collection of people with hidden agendas and no concern for presenting truth. I would be embarrassed to present such drivel to the world as an example of my craftsmanship.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I have to assume that this posting, on a subject with which I am well acquainted, is indicative of the professionalism and quality of this source. With that assumption in mind I can say that I have rarely encountered a more one-sided, error-filled, bigoted account of what Mormons believe. It is completely ridiculous and filled with intentional misinformation and lies. I am appalled at the bald-faced disregard for accuracy portrayed by this article and am forced to conclude that I can have no confidence in the accuracy of any other article I find on the “Top Secret Writers” site. It impresses me as being an extremely amateur and juvenile collection of people with hidden agendas and no concern for presenting truth. I would be embarrassed to present such drivel to the world as an example of my craftsmanship.

  • Disappointed

    Wow. That was not even a clever or well done anti-Mormon article.

    If someone’s going to think the Mormons are goofy, I sure hope it’s from a better done piece than this one.

  • Disappointed

    Wow. That was not even a clever or well done anti-Mormon article.

    If someone’s going to think the Mormons are goofy, I sure hope it’s from a better done piece than this one.

  • Disappointed

    Wow. That was not even a clever or well done anti-Mormon article.

    If someone’s going to think the Mormons are goofy, I sure hope it’s from a better done piece than this one.

  • Marsha Maxwell

    Many of these statements are absolutely untrue.

  • Anonymous

    My four-year-old nephew knows more about Mormonism than the author of this article.

  • Just so this is clear – sites that mention anything anti-Mormon are not good sources, and sites that only promote the Mormon religion are “legitimate” sources. I see…

  • Probably because you raised him a Mormon….

  • You’re really hoping there’s a better-written piece on how Mormon’s are goofy?

  • Nice to see a level-headed person posting here for once. Thanks for the added info Jack. Interesting stuff.

  • This makes it very clear that, because of your indoctrination, you simply don’t see the forest for the trees. There are those out there that do believe in baptism, but may feel this behavior of having it “performed on their behalf” is not only wrong but terribly unethical and immoral.

  • Anonymous

    No need to hope. I’ve read hundreds of better-written pieces.

  • Anonymous

    My Catholic neighbor knows more about Mormonism than the author of this article. My atheist neighbor does too. So do my evangelical friends…

    I counted at least ten easily verifiable falsehoods in the article. If you consider yourself educated about Mormonism, can you name five of them?

  • You want me to guess 5 of your subjective excuses for odd Mormon beliefs – that’s funny.

  • Anonymous

    “easily verifiable”

  • Good for you – you should stick to reading tracts published and approved by the church then.

  • Scott

    Is this for real? This woman knows nothing about Mormonism! Several of these are flat-out wrong. I don’t really understand the “Love isn’t as strong for non-Mormons” point. What proof is she giving for this claim?..And what does it even mean? I think a 6 year old could write a more cogent article. Also Mormons don’t necessarily believe the world is 7000 years old. Many Mormons believe the creative “days” in Genesis are actually creative periods that could have been billions of years in length. Again, where is her citation? Also, there is no specific guidance that no TV can be watched on Sunday. Of her “citations”, one is from a chat thread, a couple are from anti-Mormon websites, and one is a broken link. This author is a complete idiot.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to think that everybody thinks this piece is garbage simply because it’s critical of the LDS church. While the bias is obvious, it’s also so poorly researched and written that even anti-mormon websites contradict it. Would you like some examples?

  • Anonymous

    The bio for the author states “She endeavours to enlighten readers about news they were never aware existed.”

    She’s absolutely right on that one- especially when you make up stuff that doesn’t actually exist!

  • Anonymous

    As one who grew up a Mormon, this list is what non-Mormons think Mormons believe, not what Mormons actually believe. Mormons aren’t the 7000 year old Earth types, and I watched quite a lot of TV every single Sunday without any repercussions. I also find it a bit sad that things like tithing and Sunday being a day of rest are not “true Christian” beliefs any more.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re going to point out weird Mormon beliefs (or any “weird” beliefs) shouldn’t they at least be accurate?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget the unicorns.

  • Anonymous

    Based on your posts, you seem the type who would congratulate the devil himself as he spews garbage against the Mormons, which you clearly have a personal issue with.

  • Shane

    It’s one thing to dislike someone for what they believe. It’s another thing to dislike them based off of false assumptions and information. This article is completely sourced from everyone but a Mormon. This article is disappointing. I thought we were an educated society? The author has lost all credibility.

  • Anonymous

    That was the only part of the article that was correct.

    “In placing a huge emphasis on the family and taking care of one another,
    it doesn’t seem surprising that there are approximately 7 million
    Mormons in the United States and it is the fastest growing religion in
    North America.”

  • How are you defining “anti-Mormon” websites exactly? Any site that happens to publish anything that may not align with pro-Mormon teachings? I’m not sure what criteria is used to discredit those sources.

  • No – I seem to think, based on past experience, that when a group of people are all offended by a particular article, they tend to attack en masse – that does not reflect the opinion of the true majority.

  • Sorry – this sounds like am immature grade-school comment that doesn’t even deserve a response.

  • This is great feedback from the Mormon perspective. Thank you. I’ve shared this with Gabrielle and our editor. We may consider getting input from a life-long Mormon on some of these things that “non-Mormons think Mormons believe”. Thanks.

  • They are accurate based on a large number of sources, many of which were not even cited for this article. The majority of the discomfort seems to come from the fact that many Mormons here feel the portrayal of those beliefs is inaccurate – which may be a valid argument. I’m actually interested in exploring this further and posting a follow-up article (or articles). Discussing with our editor now. Thanks for the feedback.

  • Not really – if you took the time to look into my own past writing, you would see that I explore a long list of belief systems – people that belief in aliens, abductions, UFOs, reptiles, angels, ghosts, and in this case – the application of baptism-after-death, among other things. We explore such beliefs from the perspective of an open-minded skeptic, and try to understand the truth behind any such beliefs (if any) and/or the psychology behind what makes people believe such things. As you can imagine, we tend to offend people that believe in aliens, UFOs, abductions, etc…. It’s part of looking for the truth – you do happen to offend people who’ve already decided on their own truth and are no longer very open-minded about exploring alternatives.

  • I think it’s a valid statement that the article could have used a quote or comment from someone within the Mormon church. It was – as the owner/editor I fully admit – an examination of what non-Mormons out there tend to understand about Mormon beliefs. As bytebear accurately pointed out – there may have been some things that could have been learned from getting a quote or two from folks within the Mormon church. This is something myself and my chief editor are now looking at doing as a possible follow-up, in an effort to respond to some of the sort of beliefs commonly understood as fully “Mormon” within the mainstream. Should be an interesting follow-up, which we’ll link to from this and my own Mormon article on the underground vaults. Thanks for the feedback.

  • A few more sources and quotes for those claiming the article doesn’t have enough “legitimate” citations. We can obtain more if necessary – an entire follow-up article with more evidence if required. Although, from a few of these sources I understand there’s significant effort out there to prevent this kind of information from being considered as credible at all…might explain the great number of attack-comments in this particular thread. – (

    “They can be ordered to turn upon and shun any members who show any signs of backsliding. They have distinctive little practices, such as the famous underwear, to mark them off from other mortals, and they are said to be highly disciplined and continent when it comes to sex, booze, nicotine, and coffee. Word is that the church can be harder to leave than it was to join. Hefty donations and tithes are apparently appreciated from the membership.”

    “More recently, and very weirdly, the Mormons have been caught amassing great archives of the dead, and regularly “praying them in” as adherents of the LDS, so as to retrospectively “baptize” everybody as a convert. (Here the relevant book is Alex Shoumatoff’s The Mountain of Names.) ” (

    “The daughter of a Mormon bishop who has abandoned her family’s faith claims in a new book the election of Mitt Romney to the presidency would put the U.S. in danger due to what she calls the Republican’s “outrageous,” “horrific” and “mind-controlling” beliefs.”

    “The author, who herself was married in a Mormon temple at age 19 but now considers herself a non-denominational Christian, says there’s a secret agenda Mormon officials don’t like to talk about publicly. ‘A complete takeover of the government,’ she said. ‘They have more people in the CIA, the FBI. They have an employment office for Mormons in D.C. to be able to infiltrate them into the government.'”

    “Erickson claims Romney and other Mormons take part in clandestine marriage ceremonies involving “outrageous” customs. Explaining her own Mormon wedding, she says she was forced to completely disrobe against her will.

    ‘It was horrific,’ she told WND. ‘There I was standing naked. They brought this bowl of water, and started washing my body down and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.’

    To help ensure the general public did not learn details of the rituals, she says believers took a symbolic knife to feign their own murder if members spilled the beans of what really goes on behind closed doors.”

  • I’m sorry bud – but a comment from “Brian_C” or “bytebear” is not a source, it’s an anonymous user making their own unsubstantiated claims. If you’d like to talk and provide your own evidence/information for follow-up article with counter-points and evidence, let me know. My contact information is always available on our contact page, and I’m always open to direct, private and open discussion with potential sources. I am very much non-anonymous and always open to having a mature, direct conversation.

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha!
    Now you’ve reached a new low! Quoting Trisha Erickson! She was interviewed on CNN and totally embarrassed when her claims were all exposed as gibberish. Even other anti-mormons criticized her for making stuff up.
    Not only is she not a credible source, she is a confirmed non-credible source. (even worse than this site)

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha!
    Now you’ve reached a new low! Quoting Trisha Erickson! She was interviewed on CNN and totally embarrassed when her claims were all exposed as gibberish. Even other anti-mormons criticized her for making stuff up.
    Not only is she not a credible source, she is a confirmed non-credible source. (even worse than this site)

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha!
    Now you’ve reached a new low! Quoting Trisha Erickson! She was interviewed on CNN and totally embarrassed when her claims were all exposed as gibberish. Even other anti-mormons criticized her for making stuff up.
    Not only is she not a credible source, she is a confirmed non-credible source. (even worse than this site)

  • Travis

    Gabrielle & Ryan, this type of writing flames out fast. I had a website like this that got a 130K hits after 3 weeks and then it flamed out. You run out of inflaming topics that get readers. This Blog category is sure fun to write in though, it’s somewhere between gossip rags and writing on the bathroom wall. I just love to see people post comments as if this was legitimate. Best of luck.

  • Mark Donnelson

    Terri, as a born-and-bred member of the LDS church, I have to take issue with much of what you said:

    1. True, but “we” do believe that each person who lives “worthy” of the Celestial Kingdom can create their own worlds and be GODS over them. Really, it’s an issue of semantics, and the reality is just as ridiculous.

    2. Tithing in the way the church teaches it is EXTORTION, plain and simple. “Pay us 10% of everything you make, or you’re dooming your family to eternal gloom.” You can’t attend the temple if you’re not paying the church 10% of everything you make. Should I also go into the complete lack of transparency surrounding church spending? Most major churches are an open book; you know exactly where your money goes. With the Mormon church, your tithes get invested, then the gains from those investments are used for numerous things; Temples, churches, sure…but also for-profit ventures such as the City Creek Mall and the church’s countless other businesses. While your tithing may not go from your pocket to a for-profit business, the interest earned on your tithing does. Take a look at what the church has spent on humanitarian aid in the last two decades, and prepare to be astonished (hint: it’s not good).

    3. Sure, but don’t even dream of attaining the highest level of glory if you don’t give the church 10% of your income. Nevermind that you can’t pay your mortgage…the LORD WILL PROVIDE (yeah right).

    4. The lack of specifics on what keeping the sabbath day holy means in the church causes a lot of confusion, I’ll give you that.

    5. Yes, Joseph Smith gave the priesthood to black men, Unfortunately, several of the “prophets” after him were bigots and racists. But it’s OK, because they were “speaking as men, not as prophets,” right? No. I thought a prophet would never lead the church astray? Unfortunately, that has proven to be completely false. The church’s history with racism is completely disgusting. And a slight tangent…Joseph may not have been a racist, but he was far from moral and honest. He had 32+ secret wives, 12+ of which were OTHER MEN’S WIVES. Should we also talk about the wives as young as 14? He took this secret to his grave, but even church leaders won’t deny it now. It’s written in the books of history, and the proof is beyond deniability.

    Pull your head out of the sand, lady.

  • Mark Donnelson

    “There isn’t a single LDS Source…”

    Maybe because LDS sources are typically whitewashed to give you only the nice, rosy picture? The Mormon church teaches that researching the “gospel” claims in any source that’s not church-approved will lead you astray. That’s like going to the Ford dealer and relying on only their opinion on the reliability of Ford Trucks. “Hey Ford salesman, do you think I should buy an F150? Are they good trucks? I will trust your opinion and yours alone!”

    It’s really no different.

  • Mark Donnelson

    Again, this goes back to the Mormon mindset that anything that calls into question the divinity of the “gospel” is “anti-Mormon.” As a lifelong member of the church, this mindset is a large part of what has driven me away and allowed me to come to my senses.

  • Thanks for the 1st-hand feedback Mark. What has impressed me here is how aggressively the propaganda force comes out to try and discredit anything that brings these things to light. It’s eye-opening. Better be careful – a few are going to arrive here and start comparing you to “Satan”. 🙂

  • Great analogy.

  • Mark Donnelson

    Ryan, it’s all good. I’m accustomed to being told that I’m under the influence of Satan and I’m dragging my family to hell with me. It’s par for the course when you start asking questions that LDS leadership can’t answer.

  • I would refer you to Mark Donnelson’s comments below – who was a member of the church and confirms much of what we’ve pointed out. It is very much a question of members of LDS working very hard to try and discredit the article, just as is done with every other article or person that calls into question these beliefs.

  • Any and all future comments making blanket attacks against the author of this article or this website, will be removed. Please focus on discussing specific issues/information inside of the article, and please provide evidence or sources to support your side of the debate. Provide comments with sources 24 hrs to be approved, as links get auto-marked for review. I will approve them all so long as they are part of a mature discussion about these issues. Attack/derogatory comments toward the author or this website will be automatically deleted and the user will be banned. I realize this topic is extremely sensitive for many – but that doesn’t mean the debate/discussion about the reality or non-reality of specific beliefs can’t be maturely discussed and proven or disproven.

  • Even the Mormon blogger from your source admits that Erickson has every right to share her perspective as a former Mormon. She also admits that Erickson’s bona-fides are better than her own, but that everyone has a right to provide their perspective.

    “Everyone who has ever been involved in Mormonism, including Tricia Erickson, has some kind of Mormon story. In that sense they — we — can and should speak for Mormonism.”

    The second source you cited (not approved) was very a very low-quality website using vitriolic language in a baseless hit-piece against Erickson.

  • Even the Mormon blogger from your source admits that Erickson has every right to share her perspective as a former Mormon. She also admits that Erickson’s bona-fides are better than her own, but that everyone has a right to provide their perspective.

    “Everyone who has ever been involved in Mormonism, including Tricia Erickson, has some kind of Mormon story. In that sense they — we — can and should speak for Mormonism.”

    The second source you cited (not approved) was very a very low-quality website using vitriolic language in a baseless hit-piece against Erickson.

  • Excellent point on Rumor #4 – although Gabrielle did point out the belief came into play prior to African-Americans being allowed into the Church. So, she did acknowledge they are allowed into the Church today – pointing out black membership doesn’t really disprove that the belief existed within the original tenets of the Church?

    Very good points under “Truth #1”

  • Anonymous

    African Americans (and anyone) have always been allowed church membership. Joseph Smith, in fact, ordained black men to the priesthood. Sometime during Brigham Young’s leadership, the practice of ordaining black men to the priesthood was stopped. This is commonly called the “priesthood ban” and was lifted in 1978. But blacks were always allowed membership, and the church didn’t even have segregated congregations and still doesn’t. That is a far more interesting fact about the church.

    By the way, the “black skin becoming lighter” actually comes from the Book of Mormon talking about the Lamanites coming back to the the church and becoming a “white and delightsome people” These Lamanites would be interpreted as Native Americans, not blacks.

    So, you have different practices and different “urban legends” colliding and are mixing them up into a supposed belief, that simply isn’t right on several levels.

  • Anonymous

    And talking donkeys

  • Anonymous

    The biggest problem you have is that seem to not know what you want to convey? Is your intent to clarify and get people familiar with Mormon beliefs and practices? Or is it to isolate Mormonism from the mainstream by making it look odd and bizarre? I suspect it is the latter.

    That aside, the presentation you give of Mormonism is so blatantly skewed from the truth, that any informed reader will simply leave with a sense of not knowing what is true and what isn’t. Even if you bring up legitimate issues they become marred by your obvious and aggressive bias toward anti-Mormon sources. Your defense of Tricia Erickson alone negates your entire argument as bogus. If you really want a dialogue about Mormonism, you must allow yourself room to admit you are wrong. And on many of these points, you are very very wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Is there any source cited that is from an official LDS source? I suggest you start there.

  • Anonymous

    Can you really find a source from any official LDS source that claims anything about dinosaurs? I highly doubt you will find anything beyond someone saying their 7th grade Sunday School teacher told them so.

  • Anonymous

    Ryan, that’s not a bad idea. They would at least reflect the actual Church teachings, and not wild speculation.

  • Thanks bytebear. However this statement confuses me:

    “These Lamanites would be interpreted as Native Americans, not blacks.”

    Where does that interpretation come from? I suppose it “could be”, but as you confirm here, the Book of Mormon does make the statement of a people coming “back” to the church and becoming white – is this interpretation your own or does it come from anywhere?

  • Good – I’d be worried if you were 100% certain which side we fall on. The point is – our goal is neither. It’s only to reveal the truth (about these beliefs).

    What might be confusing you is that we don’t accept the assumptions you’ve probably already made regarding what you believe to be the truth. We’re exploring these beliefs from more of a viewpoint of a person first encountering the belief-set, and trying to understand why they exist in the first place. I’m sure you can at least imagine what many of these must look like from the outside.

    Your confusion might come from the fact that you’ve already adopted the beliefs, and so have a subset of already accepted assumptions. The idea that someone may question these beliefs or consider them odd might seem ridiculous to you, but to others viewing these beliefs, I assure you, they have the same concerns and questions.

    Efforts to discredit any folks – particularly former Mormons – that might speak out about such beliefs, is actually more reflective of you than it is of us.

  • Anonymous

    That Joseph Smith had many wives is not particularly hidden as some deep secret. Brigham Young was quite open about polygamy, and it’s probably the most prominent issue that people think of when they think of Mormonism.

    As to Smith marrying other men’s wives, and even girls as young as 14. Well, yes, and no. He was sealed to them for eternity, but not married to them temporally. There is no proof that he ever slept with them. And he never lived with them. When the idea of “sealings” or being joined with someone for eternity was introduced, it was a great honor to be sealed to Joseph Smith. Women wanted to be sealed to him, even if they had husbands already (and especially if their husbands weren’t Mormons). Heber C Kimball (an apostle) wanted his daughter sealed to Smith, so Helen Mar Kimball was sealed to Smith when she was 14. But she never claimed to have any other relationship whatsoever. She still lived with her parents, and later married another man when she came of age.

    As for tithing, yep, it’s expected.

    And as to becoming GODS, it is a matter of semantics, because there is a distinction between God and becoming “gods”. Here’s what the Bible says about it:

    let them have dominion: Gen. 1:26 .
    man is become as one of us: Gen. 3:22 .
    be holy: for I … am holy: Lev. 19:2 . ( 1 Pet. 1:16 . )
    madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands: Ps. 8:6 .
    Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High: Ps. 82:6 .
    Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father: Matt. 5:48 .
    Is it not written in your law … Ye are gods: John 10:34 .
    we are the offspring of God: Acts 17:29 .
    heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ: Rom. 8:17 .
    changed into the same image from glory to glory: 2 Cor. 3:18 .
    if a son, then an heir of God through Christ: Gal. 4:7 .
    Till we all come … unto a perfect man: Eph. 4:13 .
    be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live: Heb. 12:9 .
    when he shall appear, we shall be like him: 1 Jn. 3:2 .
    him that overcometh will … sit with me in my throne: Rev. 3:21 .

  • Great resource – thank you. I encourage other readers here to visit and ask straightforward questions about some of the beliefs described here.

  • As other non-Mormon readers here have explained, many believe LDS sources to be whitewashed and not a 100% accurate resource for things that the LDS leadership may not want known.

    It’s sort of like trying to use the NSA website to get information about the leaked NSA surveillance program. That wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense, would it.

  • As other non-Mormon readers here have explained, many believe LDS sources to be whitewashed and not a 100% accurate resource for things that the LDS leadership may not want known.

    It’s sort of like trying to use the NSA website to get information about the leaked NSA surveillance program. That wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense, would it.

  • Anonymous

    Ryan, don’t use excuses for poor scholarship. You haven’t revealed anything other than a thinly veiled agenda. And the Mormons aren’t the ones who suffer for your efforts. If anything, a conscientious reader will do a few minutes of research and will see that you have no credibility. When you present something as fact, that turns out not to be, then it becomes very difficult to convince anyone that anything you say is true. The Mormons you are engaging are exactly right. They see you as a joke. They’ve heard all of these crazy accusations their entire lives.

  • In that case, could I obtain full access to the Granite Mountain Records Vault for a research article I would personally write? I’m willing to pay to fly myself there, out of my own pocket.

    After touring all areas of the records vault, I will personally write an article telling everyone how open the LDS leadership is to revealing everything about the religion in full public view.

  • Anonymous

    But you don’t delve into the historical and spiritual aspects of the practice. For example, did you know that baptism for the dead was a practice of some early Christians? Are you aware of the New Testament scriptures that talk about Christ preaching to the dead in the afterlife? Are you familiar with how the practice is done in the church today? Do Mormons worship their dead? Is the actual ordinance elaborate or simple? Do the people performing it even know the names for which they are doing the act?

    You see, what you do is take some concept, morph it and twist it into something it is not, and then mock your created straw man.

    We humans are creatures who create rituals. From superstitions to help your favorite sports team win, to making sure your bathroom ritual is orderly and complete. That some people pray over their ancestors is simply another ritual in hopes that there is something to look forward to after death.

    If you find it offensive, or something worth mocking, that’s your prerogative, but I embrace the ritual and any of the beautiful rituals that different cultures have created, from Buddhist Monk prayers to Native American rain dances to Maori tattoos.

  • I don’t find such beliefs offensive at all, and I find the ideas you’ve written here to be extremely enlightening and helpful.

    What I don’t think you realize is that it’s *you* that finds offense at the very idea of the general public questioning the veracity of some of these beliefs that seem to make no sense on the surface. Also – accounts by former members of LDS (such as Mark – a fellow commenter here) should not be so quickly brushed off as you seem to do – that’s a disturbing behavior, and their perspectives should be considered just as yours should be.

  • I request access to the Granite Mountain Records Vault for a full tour of all areas, for a feature research article to prove that LDS is fully open about all rituals and practices, and that statements by former members that LDS leadership is trying to hide things is completely false. Can you pass on this request to LDS leadership?

  • Anonymous

    The Book of Mormon tells the story of the family of Lehi. Lehi was a prophet who was told by God to build a ship and sail away. He was guided from the Old World (Jerusalem) to the New World (somewhere in the Americas).

    Once there his family was split into two factions, those that remained faithful following his son Nephi (becoming the Nephites), and those that abandoned their faith and followed his son Lamen (becoming the Lamanites). These two groups fight throughout the book, ultimately leading to the destruction of the Nephites. The Lamanites then become at least a faction of modern Native Americans.

    However, interpretations vary, and it’s commonly interpreted that the term Lamanite came to mean anyone outside their group. Similar to Jew and Gentile.

    In, the narrative, the concept of becoming white/pure is used in a few places. It’s a bit controversial because some interpret it as skin color, others as metaphorical. Or perhaps a bit of both, if the outsiders’ tribe was made up of darker skinned people. It seems reasonable that the Nephites would condemn the intermarriage with darker skinned outsiders. But if you don’t believe in tribalism, or that a just God could condone such blatant racism, then I suppose the discussion is lost on you.

    You ask where this is written? I recommend you read the Book of Mormon. Your interpretation of course, may vary as it does with anyone reading a subjective subject .

  • Anonymous

    The vault only contains genealogical records. They are all online now. If you really want to find the “secret” mormon writings, read the Journal of Discourses, also online and published by the church. They are essentially meeting notes from the first few decades of the church in the 1800s. They are full of all sorts of crazy concepts. But Mormons don’t see those an canonical, nor do they look at any speeches or writings as official unless they are canonized in what they call the Standard Works which are the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price. Everything outside of those books are considered speculative, although they may help members create their own interpretations and ideas. Hence, the dinosaur belief. Some may believe some odd story of their creation, but there is nothing whatsoever that comes from the church.

  • Thanks for the explanation.

    “Your interpretation of course, may vary as it does with anyone reading a subjective subject.”

    I think that was the best statement of this entire comment thread.

  • No – I’d actually like to visit the physical vault itself to see whether or not it’s true there’s a ritual chamber where baptisms of the dead take place – where people who were never Mormon, nor related to anyone who was Mormon, are baptized as Mormon – similar to the whole Jewish-baptism episode that the church received much flak for in the media not long ago.

    If as you say church leaders don’t hide anything, this shouldn’t be a problem.

  • Anonymous

    I have no problem with anyone questioning Mormonism. In fact, it’s encouraged within the church. If you don’t believe it, don’t become a Mormon, or walk away. Clearly there are plenty of people who have.

    I also stopped attending church 15 years ago. I have no reason to defend the “truth” but I do feel an obligation to correct “facts.” That’s where we differ, and that’s where I dismiss people like Mark. He throws out ideas with only partial information, or uses his “experiences” to paint church members and practices with a very broad brush. And this article feeds off of those “urban legends” of Mormonism. It’s laughable.

  • Theron

    None of these bullet points are completly true. General ideas have been greatly exaggerated and twisted by the author own words or by bad sources. This article is terrible and not at all accurate.

  • Anonymous

    They used to do tours. I don’t know if they do any more.

    Baptism for the Dead are performed in Temples.

    Google “Mormon Temple Baptismal Font” and you will see hundreds of pictures of them.

    The design of the font comes from the Old Testament. 1 Kings 7 where the temple of Solomon is being described, and there is a brazen sea held up by 12 oxen representing the 12 tribes of Israel.

    If you really want to see it, find a temple about to be dedicated and they do tours of the building and you can the entire temple yourself.

    Oh and if you really want to dig into the issue, and see what the building is all about, you can find various building permits and such which have full blueprints of the buildings.

  • Anonymous

    Well, of course. There are thousands of Christian churches all interpreting the Bible differently. Why would it be any different with the Book of Mormon. In the LDS Church you don’t have a liturgy or catechism where you have to believe everything exactly one way. There are basic principles that you should believe (see Articles of Faith) which tell you the basics, but after that, you’re on your own. So if you want to believe that all Native Americans are direct descendents of Lehi, that’s your choice, but it’s hardly a requirement and even a detriment given the overwhelming evidence against such a theory.

  • They’ve only provided YouTube video of the complex. No public is allowed inside of the vaults – for a facility only containing microfiche records, that seems a rather extreme approach. I will try to contact LDS leadership to get a tour, but I’m not holding my breath…

  • Anonymous

    What do you expect to find?

  • Preferably, nothing but vaults filled with microfiche records. I like going into such an investigation giving the official stance the benefit of the doubt. However, not having physical access at all tends to introduce a grain of doubt to the official stance.

  • Anonymous

    Well, the vaults were built to protect and preserve the data, not to hide it away. Now that we have the internet, and a dozen new ways to preserve data, there is less of a need, but still it’s always to have a hard copy.

    Grains of doubt. I would worry less about what the Mormons are doing and more about what the government is doing if you want to get into secret conspiracy theories.

    Mormonism is pretty much an open book. Even the “mysteries” of the temple are all online for those who wish to find them, although it’s really not the same as being a participant, which anyone can do as well, as long as you go through the steps necessary for qualification. Unlike other religions, Mormons really don’t have a separate class for clergy. There are no secret rites only for Cardinals or High Priests or other Holy Men. All Mormons qualify for holiness and are invited to participate in these private rituals. Perhaps that;s why they are seen as odd, because they are common. When you think of other religions who have their own private/secret rituals or holy places, they are only open to a very few. Because Mormons open the door to everyone, they become more scrutinized because 1) more people know about them from first hand experience and 2) because you are invited but must qualify, which means you somehow feel unworthy of something given to essentially everyone.

    I suppose it’s easier to dismiss the monk who must live a life of poverty, silence and live on top of a hill in a cave or something because no one can achieve that, so he is left with his secrets. But Mormon secrets aren’t all that secret, so it then becomes exclusive which tends to make the outsider want to challenge the requirements for higher enlightenment.

    Here, you have heard there are secret baptism fonts in this mysterious vault, but I have shown you these fonts are not particularly secretive, are housed in temples and not this vault, and have given you hundreds of photos published by the church to show what they are and what their meaning is to church members. Because it’s because you cannot actively participate or because you lack the knowledge of these things that you find them offensive or “secretive”. I think that’s your issue to come to terms with, not the church’s.

  • Not sure why you insist on this strawman argument that I find anything offensive. If we found these things offensive, we would avoid exploring these beliefs at all.

    Yes – you’ve shared all of the publicly available information about baptism fonts inside Mormon temples. We are supposed to take your claim on faith that there’s “nothing to see” inside of the mountain vault? And we’re supposed to just take your assurances on faith that there’s nothing at all going on, despite past questionable activity discovered where LDS posthumously baptized Jewish Holocaust Victims?

    It is this kind of past activity that leads people to question what other beliefs/practices might be at work here. How can you blame people for wondering?

    These are important questions to ask and worthy of public review. If anyone has issues to come to terms with – it’s folks that would posthumously baptize holocaust victims. There’s a real problem when that kind of disrespectful activity is allowed to occur inside of any organization.

  • As a counter-balance, I would also encourage readers to explore to read about the religion from the perspective of former members of the church.

  • Also, how would you respond to this story from an ex-Mormon?

    “Our Bishop called the girl and her parents into his office and open his scriptures to those wonderful scriptures in the book of abraham and the book of moses and explained to the girl and her parents about the Lamanite curse and how if she married this boy and had children by him that all of her descendants forever would have the Lamanite curse of dark skin and would not be blessed as she was being white.”

    You’re saying they’re making these things up?

  • Anonymous

    There are millions upon millions of names in the church’s ancestry files. They are all submitted by church members. Some members took it upon themselves to just bulk load various records for baptism. This was against church policy, but there were very few verification sytems in place, particularly when it was all done on paper.

    The church has worked extensively with various Jewish groups to tighten the checks against unauthorized names being put into the system.

    Now, if you want to discuss Mormon/Jewish interactions, you should look beyond Baptism for the Dead. For example, did you know that in the 1800s a Mormon apostle dedicated Jerusalem for the gathering of Israel? Did you know that Mormons helped establish the first Jewish Synagog in Salt Lake. They also were instrumental in establishing the first Catholic diocese, and most recently donated money in the 1990s to build a Hare Krisha temple in Provo.

    If you want to read a really good blog, check out the Jewish Journal which has a Mormon contributor who submits various articles on Mormon and Jewish relations and theological interests.

  • Former members list a litany of things they felt LDS leaders were or are hiding. I suppose they would know better than anyone.

  • Why look beyond Baptism for the Dead? This was a fascinating revelation of what really went on behind closed doors — and it’s reasonable for people to question what similar activity goes on today. You are trying to change the subject.

  • DJ Woolley

    Funny how you always follow Maria’s comments with a thanks for his first hand knowledge, as if he isn’t biased, and say that anybody who disagrees with you is biased. Fact iis that you are a troll liking to get a reaction and have absolutely no interest in the truth. You find a negative item on the internet, and resource it asas objrctive, reliable, and generalizable simply because you like it, and ignore any evidence to the contrary. Have fun with your life based on negativity and bashing.

  • Anonymous

    No, I know Mormonism far better than you, and I know you are simply not presenting truth at all.

  • Anonymous

    By the way, the systems insecurity allowed non-Mormons (anti-Mormons) to submit controversial names and then turn around and call the media claiming Mormons were “at it again.” Perhaps that should be your focus on a conspiracy.

  • There’s no evidence to support this baseless claim. You’re trying to blame anti-Mormons for the activity now? There is however evidence to support it was very much a “planned program” of the Mormon church. No claims in comments will be approved without citations.

    “Information in the IGI can be traced to its source, and I determined that the source was a book located in the Family History Library entitled Lijst van Nederlandee jooden die gestorven zijn gedurende de tweede wereld oorlog (List of Dutch Jews, prisoners and missing people that have died in concentration camps during World War II). Spot checking a few other names from the Dutch book, it was clear that other names had been extracted and other Jews had been baptized. The source information in the IGI also revealed that the extraction was not the act of individuals but a planned program of the Mormon Church.”

  • Anonymous

    Runnign scared now? Come on. Block my commentary if you must, but if you are not afraid of truth, then you need to allow discussion.

    The fact is, a woman did break into the system with the full intent of making the church look bad.

  • only mentions one of Brigham Young’s wives. He had up to 55. 16 of them produced his 57 children.

    Why no mention of the other 54 on Perhaps it’s not the best source of information if you’re really looking for the truth.

  • Zerin Mount

    Most of the supposed doctrines listed are not now nor have they ever been official doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Here are a few comments and clarifications: (1) ***Editor’s note: Subjective attack removed*** (2) Mormons are not required to tithe their gross; rather, they are asked to give back to God 10% of their “increase”, which may be interpreted by each individual (I pay tithe on my net because I understand that number); (3) Mormons do not believe that dark skin will become white, though some Mormons of the past did interpret some Book of Mormon passages to mean that skin color could change among some populations in the Book of Mormon on the basis of Gospel adherence: this is not accepted by Mormons; (4) It is not now nor has it ever been official (or even semi-official) doctrine that dinosaur bones came from other planets! I have heard this said two or three times in my decades as a Mormon, and it has never been said in a church–dinosaurs obviously lived and died on this earth and lived millions of years before humans; (5) Mormons do not teach that we each receive a planet from God; rather, the teaching is simple (and true): God is our father, and we may become like him (though never his equal) in the same we that a human father’s son may become like him; as God created this world for us, many Mormons assume that we, should we some day come to be like our Father in Heaven, may do the same for others–this is an ennobling doctrine, one that is grounded in the proclamations of Jesus and his disciples in the New Testament; (6) And how is it that this article does not mention the pre-mortal life? This is the most unique (and, in my opinion, satisfying) doctrine had by Mormons. We, as intelligences, have always existed. God, who was already perfect and all-knowing with an anthropomorphic body of flesh and bone, gave us spirit bodies in His likeness and thereby made us his children. He taught us for untold stretches of time until He felt we were ready to have the chance to become more like him. To do this, we would need physical bodies like His and the chance to choose to follow His will by faith. He knew we would make mistakes and thereby make ourselves unworthy to return to Him, and He therefore created a plan in which His son, Jesus, would agree to die for all of the sins of mankind. A third of us rebelled with Satan and lost the chance to obtain a body, but the rest of us agreed to God’s plan. We thus lived before this life, and life will go on for all of us after this mortal period. God be with you!

  • Anonymous

    “Radkey was surreptitiously using the account information of Mormon confidants to access the system.”

  • Your attempt to manipulate the facts of this case to frame Radkey – the person that revealed the truth about the baptism of Jewish holocaust victims – as the cause of the baptisms in the first place, smacks of the sort of backwards-logic propaganda that we’ve seen in our research from the likes of Cold War Russian propagandists. It’s amazing to see.

    Here’s a bit of truth from a more credible source – the Huffington Post. In these news accounts, it’s clear that LDS is trying to plug the leak that revealed the truth in the first place.

    “Jewish genealogist Gary Mokotoff said the change made by the church was designed to deny Radkey and other researchers the ability to uncover efforts by overzealous Mormons to posthumously baptize people outside their families. “It is not an effective way to block Holocaust victims but could seriously prevent Helen from searching for victims,” he said.”

    Also here:

    “The Mormon Church earlier this year tightened access to the database, with the stated aim of “preventing the misguided practice of submitting the names of Holocaust victims and prominent individuals for proxy baptism,” according to a church spokesman. Anyone who tries to access restricted names without proving a family relationship is automatically locked out of the system and his or her account is suspended. The security measures are seen by some as an effort to thwart Radkey’s research.”

  • Happy

    Where is the source for this: Love Isn’t as Strong for Non-Mormons

  • I believe that was from the ex-Mormon testimony (list), #19 here:, and I would assume drawn from the doctrine described here at source #1:

    “According to the “Inspired Version of the Bible” Joseph Smith has translated this verse, “No man hath seen God at any time, except them who believe. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”[17]”

    Although it would be interesting to ask MikeUtah about that item on his site and confirm where he came to that understanding from his past experience as a Mormon.

  • Caleb Willden

    Please do! That would be great for our missionary work! =)

  • The sources aren’t dubious – and I’m getting tired of you constantly making the baseless claim. They are mostly non-LDS sources, yes. You don’t respect non-LDS sources. That’s fine. Let’s agree to disagree on that.

    The real problem wasn’t so much the source you used, but it was your manipulation of the story from one where she accessed the database to obtain the names of Jewish holocaust victims that have *already* been baptized – to this theory that she’s the one that submitted the names for baptism. That is completely baseless, and an effort to turn the truth upside down on its head.

    Obviously the Church knew it was her because she’s one of the researchers that broke the story to the press after discovering the names – did you even read the news accounts?

  • You are a breath of fresh air…

  • Caleb Willden

    No…not by default. Young men 12 years old have the opportunity to be interviewed by their bishop and, if found worthy by the bishop, be ordained to the office of a deacon (mostly known by members to pass the sacrament at sacrament meetings on Sunday) and given the Aronic priesthood (also known as the preporatory priesthood).

    At 14, they can be ordained to the office of a teacher (mostly known by members to prepare the sacrament), and at 16, to the office of a priest (mostly known by members to bless the sacrament).

    At 18, a young man has the opportunity to be ordained to the office of an elder, and to recieve the Melchizedek priesthood (after interview with their bishop and stake president [another type of leader in the church]).

  • Caleb Willden

    Could you please explain why this would be unethical and immoral? I have some idea, but I would like to know better.

    We believe those who have been baptized by proxy can choose to accept it or not. It wouldn’t make sense to have it forced upon them.

    Would that change anything in regards to ethics, or no?

  • Caleb Willden

    Don’t forget Melchizedek Priesthood at age 18. (No need to use capital letters, by the way. Peaceful informatives are probably the best thing to use)

    I explain a bit more about the priesthood in a comment above, if anyone wants to search for it (Ctrl+f, “priesthood”, keep looking until you find it)

  • Can you explain how a dead person chooses to accept it?

  • Caleb Willden

    In your follow-up article (assuming you’re making one), it would be good to include the frequency the beliefs are mentioned and focused on. Some beliefs of the church may be true, but irrelevant to the purpose of the church and may not be taught to some.

    Feel free to email me at [**personal email address removed**] if you have any questions.

    I don’t want to attack anyone, but after reading those quotes you posted, the first one does have some truth, but has many false assumsions as well, as far as I can tell. A lot of it is the wording and phrasing.

    The WND one, however, does not represent the LDS church in any way, shape or form.

    I’d go through them and point out stuff, but that wouldn’t be appreciated by many (no one likes essay-length comments =) ), but if you want me to, let me know)

  • Caleb Willden

    Well, the way I see it is that if anything was hidden, it wouldn’t be a belief of the church or its members (which make up the church).

    If I were you, and I wanted to know more about the beliefs of the LDS church, I’d go to church to see what is taught. It’s not too hard to find a local church building and meeting hours on google maps or the church website.

  • Caleb Willden

    As a spirit in the spirit world.

    We believe that after someone dies, they keep on learning in the spirit world (Judgement day and entrance into heaven doesn’t come until after the Second Coming of Christ.), since you don’t magically gain all knowledge when you enter into the afterlife.

    They can still make choices in the afterlife. Some people may choose to accept the baptism or not.

    Think of it as something someone might want to have, like a hammer or a sandwich (I’m not good at analogies). If I’m given a hammer or a sandwich, I can use it if I feel I need to, but I don’t have to. (That was a terrible analogy, but I’ll leave it there.)

  • Caleb Willden

    But is it realy necessary to mention multiple wives? It doesn’t really contribute to the message of the gospel and what is taught within the church.

    Poligamy was a practice only carried out for a short time (Joseph Smith was reluctant to even do it) because there was a very large amount of widows in the church that couldn’t support their families.

    Surely you can’t base reliability of the church’s website on a lack of a fact that doesn’t relate to the church’s beliefs.

  • Lisa O.

    The official LDS stance on the age of the earth is that they have no opinion on the subject. Back in the 1920s, during the national uproar of the Scopes “Monkey” trial, several members of the leadership petitioned the Prophet to make a public statement on church doctrine in the matter. After hearing presentations from both sides of the argument (7,000 years v. ancient age of the earth AND the idea of evolution of humans, referred to by them as Pre-Adamites) The Prophet issued a statement saying, in essence, that if it was not was not directly related to the spread of the gospel of Jesus Christ, they really had no interest in taking a “side” in the discussion. Since then, several prominent LDS leaders have made statements as to their opinions, some rather forcefully, but neither side has been given the imprimatur of official church doctrine.

    The biggest problem with this issue and others like it is that respected leaders have made confident statements, that while not supported as official church doctrine, have been accepted by many Mormons as such. It is one of the difficulties of a rigid system of hierarchical leadership.

    If “so and so” said it, it must be true!


    Source: Mornomism and Evolution: The Authoritative LDS Statements

  • Lisa O.

    I find it fascinating that one of your biggest sources is essentially an anti-Mormon website. Does it occur to you that most Mormons don’t know about these doctrines because they are NOT actually doctrines of the Church?
    While I must admit that I recognize a few of these bizarre statements as twisted versions of things that I have heard over the years, they sort of fall under the heading of what your crazy uncle would say, not what you would actually hear over the pulpit on Sunday.
    The thing is, because Mormons existed for so long in isolated groups due to persecution, they developed some strange culturisms that have nothing to do with official doctrine.
    For example,
    Have I met people who wear their church clothes all day after meetings and don’t let their kids watch TV or play with friends on Sunday? Yes.
    Is that official Church Doctrine? No.
    Most Mormons I know spend their Sundays after church not shopping, spending time with friends and family, and enjoying wholesome entertainment at home.
    So is the behavior of the “No TV on Sundays” family evidence of a “super secret” rule that only “some” know about?
    No. It is evidence that in every situation where people are trying to do the right thing, most will do so in moderation, but a few will always take it to extremes in an effort to be the righteous-est.
    The Mormon church isn’t the kind of organization where you have to be admitted to upper levels of secrecy in order to learn the next package of secret information.
    Official doctrine is pretty much laid out for everyone to see. There will always be crackpots with their strange theories, but I think that is just part of the human condition.

  • The art of Mormon ‘double talk’ and ‘lying for the lord’ all in one post.

    “Mormons do not believe that dark skin will become white, though some Mormons of the past did interpret some Book of Mormon passages to mean that skin color could change among some populations”

    “And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.” (3 Nephi 2:15)

    “…their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people.” (2 Nephi 30:6 – Pre 1981 LOL)

    So when the Mormon Prophet Spencer W Kimball referred to a 16-year-old Indian girl who was both LDS and “several shades lighter than her parents…” went on to say, “These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness. (Improvement Era, December 1960, pp. 922-3)

    What exactly was he referring to?

    When you view the Book of Mormon as a 19th Century work of fiction, such racism was prevalent then, it makes sense. Now, it’s just embarrassing
    the excuses they try to make for it. I’ve no doubt in time it’ll be re-written again, completely removing such blatant racism.

    ‘You People’ just can’t re-write your own history fast enough. LOL

  • Wow, you sound exactly like Boyd K. Packer. Just ignore the truth if it’s not faith promoting.

    If you only read Mormon approved propaganda you will learn that Brigham Young was reluctant to practice polygamy too. I bet he really struggled to have so much sex with all the women in his harem, because God commanded him to. It must have been a terrible sacrifice.

  • Hi Caleb the faithful,

    Whilst you’re helping out. Could you explain the reasoning behind the fact that Men can still be sealed to multiple wives for all eternity, yet women may only ever be sealed to one husband.

    At least two of the current 12 apostles have temple re-married after the death of their first spouse and are looking forward to multiple sister wives in heaven – Russell M. Nelson & Dallin H. Oaks . I shouldn’t be too surprised if Prophet Monson is next, there must be little old Mormon dears queueing round the block to be one of his sister wives.

    Here’s a little poem Harold B. Lee, the 11th prophet of the “church” wrote on the subject.

    My lovely Joan was sent to me.
    So Joan joins Fern That three might be, more fitted for eternity.
    “O Heavenly Father, my thanks to thee”
    (Deseret News 1974 Church Almanac, p.17) .

  • Caleb Willden

    I assure you, I’m not on a mission in a PR department, but that’s irrelevant.

    Many members are quite aware that one can be sealed to multiple wives, but that is only with proper authorization. This docterine of multiple slealings allows for those who have had spouses that have passed away to remarry.

    I don’t think you’ll get too much fighting back, if that’s what you wanted. =)

  • Fighting Back, no, not at all. I just thought the subject matter suited the article. It’s a “weird” Mormon belief that most ‘normal minded’ people would find absolutely ludicrous if not incredibly sexist. LOL

    Don’t forget divorce. Divorce on Earth does not mean divorce for all eternity. Divorced wives still count as eternal Sister Wives in the Celestial Kingdom unless the divorced Sister Wife specifically applies to the Church Presidency for a “cancellation”. Many don’t for fear of eternal loneliness.

    How much common sense does it take to see how ludicrous the whole idea is? (Answer: Apparently a little more than 15 million Mormons have LOL)

  • Again,

    Your Church simply does not teach its members the Whole Truth.
    How many Mormons know about Joseph Smiths multiple contradicting First Vision Accounts?, His Rock in a hat? Or his penchant for 14 year old girls? Or “dirty nasty affairs” with the maid? How about the Book of Abraham Papyrus or the Kinderhook plates?

    Perhaps you could ask your Sunday School teacher to spend the next lesson explaining how it is the Book of Mormon contains over 700 plagiarisms directly from the KJV of the Bible including several known translation errors and scribe notes very specific to the edition of the KJV Bible that Joseph Smith Jr owned. And then compare its story to ‘View of the Hebrews’ published some 7 years before.

    The last place you will learn the truth about any one of these topics is inside a Mormon Church. LOL

  • Anonymous

    But in the bible it speaks on one heaven with all the original tribes .Mormon ,Catholic etc are all misinterpretations of the bibles most simplest texts so do not ever mention Christianity in the same sentence as these cults.

  • cosmic purple

    This is 100% true. When i first started reading anything not approved by the church, my heart raced and my hands trembled from the fear that had been instilled in me.

  • cosmic purple

    This article sensationalizes many of the mormon beliefs. It takes a belief and presents it in a manner that makes it seem outrageous. The mormon church does not have any beliefs that are that much more outrageous than most other religions. The truly weird part of the mormon church is the history; specifically the history that is taught to members vs. what actually happened.

  • Cite your sources, please.

  • Make sure to include the sudden acceptance of black people as well.

  • crisssy101

    Bytebear. You could be right, there could be something here Ryan is not considering but you’re too close to the topic to argue those reasons rationally. Facts. Argue the facts. Besides, iIsn’t getting offended and saying, “If you don’t like it don’t be a mormon.” exactly what you’re NOT supposed to do? (I could be wrong about that last part. I was under the impression from their persistence that they took saving people very seriously)

  • Robert Turner

    Wow. I have been a “Mormon” for almost 30 years and never heard some of this stuff.
    1. The Sabbath – We are not “told” we cannot watch television or “play” with other children. We are counselled to keep our activities in keeping with honoring the Sabbath and worshipping God. How we do that is totally up to the family. We are given examples of what these types of activities are such as, scripture study, letter writing, family history, etc…
    2. The work for the dead is sacred to us. Many religions believe if you die and have not been baptised you are forever cursed to “pergatory” or “hell”. We do not believe this. We do believe the words of Jesus Christ when he said, “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.” (John 3:5) To accomplish this, Jesus established a missionary effort in the “spirit world” when he was “in the tomb”.(1 Peter 3:19)
    To accomplish this we are baptised by proxy for our kindred dead. On the other side of the veil they can choose to accept or not. This was done in the acient church. (1 Corinthians 15:29)
    3. We do not belive God was a man on Earth. We belive God, through Jesus Christ, created the earth. We do believe that As God is Man may become and, as Man is God once was. Eternities are a very, very long time. It only makes sense that a son grows up to be like his father.
    4. We do not belive that each planet has its own God. We believe God is the Creator of our Universe and that His kingdom is all we need concern ourselves with. A little known tid-bit is that we do believe that each planet where man is found has it’s own Adam and Eve.
    5. Mulitiple Heavens: Kind of… We do believe that “There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differenth from antoehr star in glory” 1 Corinthians 15:41 This scriptures tell us that based on our faithfullness we can achieve greater “glory”. The highest of which addresses your other point of greater love for our spouse.
    6. In the Temple of the Lord we may enter into the covenant of Eternal Marriage. Just as the Lord said that Adam and Eve shall be one flesh they were sealed together for Eternity. Since God is Eternal his actions are Eternal. We enter into the Abrahamic Covenant, which is the covenant made to Abraham, whereby if we prove faithful, we can have Eternal increase. It is quite beautiful and profound. It makes the relationship between a man and wife truly extraordinary.
    7. We do not believe the earth is 7, 000 years old. We believe in “creative periods”. In the Temple of the Lord we learn that we existed, spiritually, for a long, long, long, long…. time. We are talking billions here….
    8. I never heard the dinosaur bone from another world. That is just silly. We believe that all the creatures of the earth were “placed” here at different times.
    I could go on and on but suffice to say that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is where I found all the answers to life. I grew up Catholic and everything was a “great mystery”. When I found the LDS Church all the questions were answered. I encourage you to take the time for an honest and true investigation into the teachings of the church. It is truly the restored church of Jesus Christ.

  • Charly

    I’m an ex Mormon, It’s such a strange religion. I looked into it deeply and I came to terms that in MY OPINION it’s a contradicting religion that doesn’t make sense!
    I believe In beautiful things, close friendships, love and family and that’s all I need in my life guys!
    To all the Morons posting on this page –
    I’m the happiest I have ever been in my life. 10% of your income to the church to give you hope that you get to enter one of the three pearly white gates? Come on guys why should heaven have a price on it? Just live while you have air in your lungs.
    Over and out!

  • Anonymous

    So how would you feel if the Church of Satan held a baptism ritual for you without your knowledge to make you a member and tie your name to them for all of eternity?

  • Anonymous

    The Mormon Church is wrong. A salamander can attest to that!

  • order66

    “Poligamy was a practice only carried out for a short time (Joseph Smith was reluctant to even do it) because there was a very large amount of widows in the church that couldn’t support their families.”

    1/3 of Joseph’s wives were teenagers (as young as 14) and another 1/3 of them were already married to living men. This is exactly why you can’t just ask a Mormon. You will not get a truthful reply. Whether its ignorance or deceit, I’m not sure.

  • Chuck Fuego

    Mormon is a scam like muslims

  • Danny Strickland

    Baptism for the dead is definitely one of the most misconstrued doctrines outside of the Church. You can’t honestly call this article objective or “through the perspective of an open minded skeptic,” when the author uses the line “Unlike true Christianity.” I’m mean when this truly amazing doctrine is correctly understood it answers the question that no other professor of Christianity in the world can answer, being “What about some guy who died in Africa who never got a chance to hear the Gospel?” Well, the Bible teaches this answer, but when you read it expecting it to conform to your doctrine, instead of your doctrine conforming to it, you miss these truths that were lost to the philosophy of men. So, in reply, you call this doctrine unjustifiable, and in accordance with John 8:47 I see how you can think that, but the Bible teaches that except a man be born, or baptized, of water and of the spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, as put forth by Christ in John 3, and so since baptism is essential to salvation it would be unfair for those not given a chance in this life to be lost, as some teach. Baptism for the dead is a means by which all of God’s children can be given a fair chance to receive the Gospel. As also put forth in the New Testament, when we die our spirit leaves the body to await resurrection. Here the spirits that were not given a chance to receive the Gospel will be taught (John 5:25-29; 1 Peter 3:18-22 & 4:5-6) and if they except it they have to do what anyone else has to in order to follow Christ. First, have faith in Christ and His Atonement, second, repent of your sins by confessing and forsaking them, third, being baptized by immersion, and then receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands(This last one being taught mostly in Acts). These latter two cannot be done without bodies, and so these proxy baptisms are a way for us to stand in place of a deceased so that if they have excepted the Gospel they will have the opportunity to continue progressing sooner rather than later. All who have ever lived upon this earth with even a bit of accountability must be baptized before they can enter the kingdom of God, and before judgment all will have been given that chance, or else God would not be a merciful and just God.

  • Brandon Roberts

    look i’m not a mormon it’s cult like in some aspects but still it’s way less culty than scientology

  • Dooitz

    This guy needs a listener .. please listen to this guy.. coz this guy is a prophet in their religion XD

  • dooitz

    As a spirit do we have to repeat this again and again?

  • dooitz

    Dont you want to take a look at the examples.. that even the anti mormons contradict this beliefs? Or your just afraid to know that even “you” dont have the right amount knowledge about our beliefs.. try to know your religions Weird Beliefs ..

  • elder verses elder

    Basic knowledge and boring conversation . Mormons act and Think they are better than non- mormons . Just like all your other Basic Cults. aka religion. better than thou, Priesthood LDS, do basicaly .whatever you want ,,., oh yes LIES AND CHEATS ON WIFE WHO BIRTHED 9 CHILDREN . church dipping cyber sex hound . on sunday even tsk tsk.That would be Perverted . alot more dangerous than just plain old goofy. .also gay daughter is a no -no and YIKES her girlfriend black . they shake heads at that too.

  • edler versers elder

    Straight from the Mormons mouth , no caffine sodas , no coffee or tea .no oral sex , so become suppressed sex freak and break all the rules ,.,.

  • T.M. Carpenter

    Mormonism isn’t a cult or even a religion, it’s an insane asylum with 7 million paying patients being treated with fantasy stories from the crib to the casket. Good news is they are harmless enough if left to their own devices and within their own narrow and sheltered communities. They don’t strap on bombs and blow anyone else who doesn’t agree with them up. Their focus on family is admirable right up to the point where all their disciples and “prophet” on earth are men. Big surprise there. Any man who has ever been married knows men are not in charge and only ignorant Catholic Priests and Mormons could possibly come up with that hog wash. Luckily, it is neither here nor there whether they, or any other religion has a clue as to what the “truth” is. All that really matters, as far as anyone can ever know, is how we treat one another here in this world. Judge people not by their secret beliefs, but by their public behavior. What they do in private with other consenting adults is really none of anyone else’s business. Just keep your hands off me when I die and pass the coffee and the pitcher of beer if you’re not going to have any that is perfectly fine with me.

  • Det. Rodriguez

    Here is a great list of insane mormon beliefs, remember people this is not a religion as it is a fraudulent organized cult.

    1. Polygamy is still doctrinal in heaven and included in LDS scripture. See D&C 132

    2. Sports should not be played on Sunday

    3. TV or movies should not be viewed on Sunday (except Church or “happy” media)

    4. Children should not be allowed to play with friends on Sunday

    5. Working on Sunday is strictly discouraged and really only not looked down on if you’re an emergency response personnel, or other on-call emergency type jobs (doctors, police, firemen, nurses etc)

    6. Rated R movies should be strictly avoided

    7. 10% of your gross income (tithing) needs to be paid to the bishop/church before you pay for any other financial obligations, bills, food or other purchases

    8. Coffee and tea are prohibited even though they aren’t specifically referenced by doctrine

    9. For some families, all caffeinated drinks and sodas are prohibited

    10. If you have dark skin and convert to Mormonism, your skin will begin to lighten/whiten

    11. You become a God/Goddess and are given powers to create your own worlds without number

    12. You should not be alone in a room or car with a member of the opposite sex to “avoid even the appearance of evil”

    13. Beer is prohibited even though it is scripturally allowed (D&C 89:17) “…and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain” Beer was openly consumed in Utah by Mormons until Prohibition made it unpopular and the practice ceased.

    14. The Garden of Eden was in Missouri when Adam and Eve were kicked out

    15. All saints are to return to Missouri before the final arrival of Jesus for the Second Coming. Some believe this exodus back to Missouri would be on foot.

    16. Two LDS Elders or Missionaries will stand and protect the city of Jerusalem during Armageddon, as spoken of in Revelations and D&C 77:15

    17. Native Americans are the descendants of the Lamanites spoken of in the Book of Mormon

    18. The LDS Temple marriage is considered superior to all other religious marriage ceremonies and must be obtained if you want to be with your spouse in the after life. Not married in the temple? Too bad, no spouse/partner in the after life.

    19. Love isn’t as strong between couples and families who are not LDS

    20. Follow the prophet or leaders even if you think they are wrong

    21. Criticism of prophets or leaders will lead you towards apostasy

    22. Don’t use Ouija boards, face cards or tarot cards. They are of the devil.

    23. The US Constitution will hang by a thread and be saved by LDS Elders before the 2nd coming

    24. Women were discouraged from wearing pants up until the late ’60s or ’70s

    25. 3 Nephites still rome the Earth from Christ’s visit to the America’s, blessed by Him to not experience death until his second coming

    26. The moon will literally turn to blood during second coming crisis

    27. Heavenly Mother/Goddess exists, but she/them are too sacred to discuss and cannot be worshiped or prayed to

    28. Only Mormon’s can go to the highest degree of heaven, which is why proxy ordinances are done in LDS temples for as many dead people as LDS Inc can get their hands on

    29. Kids or babies who die before reaching 8 years old are perfect and automatically get into heaven

    30. Missionaries can curse people by dusting their feet off as a witness to them rejecting the gospel

    31. Satan has power over the oceans, lakes and rivers which is why LDS Missionaries are not allowed to swim

    32. Satan can’t read your thoughts so praying silently can help keep some of your secrets from him

    33. Dating is strictly prohibited until you’re 16 and then only group dating is allowed or encouraged until you can marry after your mission or marry a return missionary

    34. Doctrinal polygamy gives the 1st wife authority to reject any prospects she doesn’t like. This was never really practiced though.

    35. Women who fail to marry in the temple during their life will be assigned a worthy spouse in the hereafter and likely as a sister wife with a harem of women

    36. Black people bear the curse of Cain and were born black because they were less valiant in the pre-existence (pre-Earth life) and sat on the fence as to whether to follow Satan/Lucifer or Jesus

    37. Cremation will make being resurrected harder, having to recollect all of your atoms/molecules from where ever they were spread

    38. God the father is only one of millions or endless Gods who are all basically relatives, fathers, brothers, grand-gods and so forth to our own God. If we’re worthy, we get to join the God club too.

    39. From the polygamy days, a man had to have at least 2 wives to get into the highest degree of heaven

    40. A woman’s purpose in heaven is solely to birth endless babies to populate the worlds created by their husbands. Billions and billions of babies!

    41. Gestation is still 9 months in heaven

    42. You are better off dying trying to fend off a rapist than to survive as a victim of rape, your virginity forever stolen from you

    43. Temple garments or underwear will protect you from physical harm or the grasp of Satan

    44. Girls can only have one piercing in each ear. No piercings allowed by boys/men.

    45. Tattoos are a big no-no and should never be allowed to defile your bodies. If you have tattoos when you convert, you may be encouraged to pay for laser removal at your own expense.

    46. Flip-flops are not to be worn in the church building

    47. All forms of birth control (condoms, pills, etc) are discouraged and the couple should allow as many children into their home as God decides to send them

    48. The Earth was not created by God, but by Jesus and Michael/Adam as taught in the LDS Temple endowment ceremony

    49. Secret hand shakes, keywords and signs are provided in the Temple endowment as passwords and keys to get back into heaven, like a kids club where only those with the secret passwords can get in

    50. The church partners with Boy Scouts of America for the development of males but does not endorse nor partner with the Girl Scout programs or similar female development programs

    51. The Holy Ghost is threatened or turned away by bars, clubs and “dirty” places so will not protect you or guide you if you choose to enter such filthy places

    52. Mormon Garments must be worn day and night, only removed for sex, showering and some sporting activities

    53. Women must wear their bras and panties over their garments, as the garment should be the layer closest to the skin for maximum protection

    54. If you’re not a Mormon, or are unworthy without a temple recommend, you get excluded from the Temple wedding ceremony of loved ones, kids, siblings or best friends

    55. Mormon’s do feel there is something special about them, or that they are better than non-mormons. Having the ultimate “truth” does that to people.

    56. Masturbation is a sexual sin/transgression and seen as cheating on your existing or future spouse

    57. Sexual transgression is a sin next to murder in God’s eyes

    58. Jesus atoned for our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane, not on the cross

    59. Jesus wasn’t born of a virgin. God had natural sex with Mary to impregnate Jesus

    60. You can’t get into heaven without Joseph Smith’s permission

    61. You can visit loved ones in lower kingdoms, but you cannot visit higher kingdoms of heaven if you didn’t merit it yourself, though they can visit you (see D&C 76)

    62. You can tell the difference between a good angel, bad angel or resurrected being by their willingness or ability to shake your hand

    63. No rainbows shall appear during the year before Jesus’ second coming

    64. If you’ve had a sex change, you cannot ever hold any callings/jobs in the church and only get baptized at the express permission of the First Presidency/prophet

    65. Role playing games, like D&D, are also evil

    66. Dinosaur fossils are to test our faith, and likely came from matter left over from past destroyed planets that were used/recycled to create Earth

    67. When a prophet or leader errors, it was because he was acting as a man and not as a prophet. There’s no indication until after the fact as to whether he was acting as one or the other, so you should always presume he’s acting as prophet until proven otherwise

    68. Free agency and choice is revered, but don’t make the wrong choice or we will judge, look down on and guilt you until you either stop making said wrong choices

    69. Once the prophet or brethren have spoken, the thinking has been done. Don’t question it.

    70. When someone leaves the church, it is God’s way of separating the wheat (good mormons) from the chaff (bad, evil apostates)

    71. Jesus was supposed to come in the year 2000, that is until he didn’t

    72. God is a resurrected, extra terrestrial, exalted human male who lives on a planet near a star called Kolob. See Book of Abraham, chapter 3 in Pearl of Great Price

    73. Even though Jesus had a beard, we aren’t allowed to have facial hair while attending the Lord’s University, BYU, and are discouraged or flat out not allowed to have facial hair in high up leadership positions, despite early leaders all having beards

    74. The LDS Temple questions somewhat encourage the shunning or disassociating with anyone who is anti, apostate, or against the church. This may include family members, close relatives or best friends if they end up leaving the church.

    75. The “Inspired” Joseph Smith translation of the bible is more correct than the KJV

    76. Joseph Smith’s money digging and glass looking were actually God’s way of preparing him for his role as a prophet and revelator.

    77. Our dead relatives and angel friends can see us when we sin, and so even when alone, it is not safe to masturbate or do anything “bad”.

    78. The Holy Ghost goes to bed at midnight, so all dates, sleepovers, or other activities by youth or single people need to end by midnight or else you won’t have protection or guidance against the temptations of the devil

    79. Hoard enough food, water and fuel to survive 3-12 months or more

    80. Women must wear modest clothing that extends to the floor while kneeling down (shorts, skirts etc) and that covers the shoulders and upper arms, no revealing of the midrift, no bikini swim suits, no tank tops, no spaghetti straps etc

    81. Satan’s real name in the Pre-existence is Lucifer, even though that name is only used once in the Old Testament

    82. The ancient Jews were the only people who would kill Christ and therefore the most wicked people in the universe

    83. So long as the US/America’s stay righteous, aka, primarily Christian and God fearing, they will not be attacked by foreign powers or enemies (stems from the tradition laid out in the Book of Mormon that righteousness equals protection from enemies by God etc).

    84. The Earth is a living entity that must also go through ordinances, death and exaltation. The Flood of Noah was the Earth’s baptism. The fire and burning at the 2nd coming will be the baptism by fire and immediately after, exaltation to a perfect sphere of glass

    85. The Earth was once in orbit around Kolob, but was expelled when Adam fell from the Garden of Eden. It will again return to that orbit after the millennium.

    86. If you don’t make it to the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom, you will be gender-less in the after life. No sex or sex urges for you in the Terrestrial and Telestial kingdoms.

    87. When people leave the church and can’t leave it alone (despite being psychologically and emotionally damaged by it), it is called “kicking against the pricks”, and is fulfillment of prophesy.

    88. There are people living on the moon. LINK They dress much like Quakers and they are tall, many standing seven feet tall or more. One day we will send missionaries to teach them the gospel. There are also people living on the sun. Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, p. 217

    89. Brigham Young (2nd LDS prophet) taught that Adam was the literal God of the Earth and Earth’s family

    90. If you serve valiantly as a missionary, you’ll be blessed with a beautiful and righteous spouse when you return

    91. If you hold your right arm to the square and invoke the power of the priesthood, you can cast out devils, divert floods and lava flows, and baptize others

    92. Women covenant in the temple to “observe and keep the law of the Lord and hearken unto the counsel of your husband as he hearkens unto the counsel of the Father”

    93. All covenant in the temple “to sacrifice all that we possess, even our own lives if necessary, in sustaining and defending the Kingdom of God”

    94. We covenant to “avoid all lightmindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed, the taking of the name of God in vain, and every other unholy and impure practice”

    95. More, we covenant in temples to “accept the Law of Consecration as contained in theDoctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion”

    96. Garments represent the garment God/Jesus made and gave to Adam when he discovered his nakedness in the Garden of Eden

    97. Women are most valued when in the home, rearing children and taking care of domestic affairs (laundry, dishes, house cleaning, etc)

    98. In the temple marriage covenant/ceremony, women “give [themselves] to [their husband] to be his lawful and wedded wife” and men “receive her unto [himself] to be [his] lawful and wedded wife for time and all eternity”

    99. If a widow remarries a man for time only, and bears him children, those children will belong to her first and sealed husband in the eternities

    100. Before a woman can remarry in the temple for eternity, she must first get a temple sealing annulment, which can only come at the approval of the First Presidency, and will likely not be allowed if the first husband is deceased

    101. Women were at one point allowed to give blessings by the laying on of hands, but that practice was ended when they were found to be more successful at healing than the priesthood holding men

  • mormons are awesome

    We call ourselves the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And no, we aren’t wrong.

  • Mormon Tony

    The Masons worked on Solmans Temple an would have held the priesthood, when moveing on to different places strangers were looked on with distrust an having someone to vouch for you would certainly be an advantage , hence the masons forming a group based on the priesthood and including non priesthood members, so why are people commenting the Mormons rituals are based on masonic rites?don’t they realise the Masonic order derived from the priesthood an used priesthood knowledge to bind its members together, or isn’t that as much fun as your version and perhaps not derogatory.

  • It seems the site could be Life After Baptist, Catholic, JW, Athiest or insert any belief or religion. Those who hold to their faith should be commended even if we do not agree with them.

  • Eireannach

    To say that Mormons are essentially Christian people shows an ignorance of scripture and Jesus’ definition of what it means to be a Christian. Sorry – Mormons are not Christians and that’s why evangelical Christians like myself witness to them whenever we can. The Mormons have a completely different Jesus from the one of the bible. It can be tricky talking to a Mormon because you have to remember that with regard to the person of Jesus we are not even talking about the same person.

  • Eireannach

    God speaking to children is not a central belief of Christianity. I don’t know where you’re getting this stuff.

  • Very use

    All religions are based on deceit. You sir have been lied to, by your church, friends, even by your parents. They were all lied to as well. Religious indoctrination and ignorance is the only reason Mormonism, Islam, and Christianity, etc still exist

  • Jeff

    What an awesome, loving, wonderful group of folks we have found in the Church of Latter Day Saints. Whether you believe the Pope’s assertions from the Chair of St. Peter are literal revelations from God himself, or that Mohammed was divinely inspired to create the Koran, or live in the peaceful harmony of the Bhuddist, and so forth, you are free to use your agency to decide for yourself what is real and what is not and what works for you. It just seems that those who believe in something — anything — are generally happier, less snarky, have no need to mock or ridicule, and more generous and loving overall. This of course is not an absolute, but it does seem to ruffle the feathers of those who believe in nothing and spend so much time fretting over things they profess to not believe and — gasp — are angry when others enjoy the happiness they apparently do not have for themselves. We smile and hope you find your path, your way to some kind of satisfying experience that doesn’t include ridicule and mock disbelief. Go your way, we’ll go ours. The journey we’re on is a happy and fulfilling one and you are always welcome to join us or not. : )

  • knotworthy

    Shouldn’t all non-Christians be offended that Christ claims to have died for the sins of all mankind. It apparently was a proxy sacrifice in behalf of all the people of the world if you believe what Christians say. (Maybe that is where the Mormons picked up that line of thinking.) The Christians have told me on many occasions that all you have to do is accept him (Christ) to be saved or, in other words, to make that sacrifice effective in your behalf, that is, to save you from going to hell. Of course they don’t seem to have any provision for the billions of people who have lived without ever hearing of this savior of theirs so their hell is going to be pretty crowded if you adhere to that belief system.

    As for me, I don’t give a rip about what anyone does for me after I’m dead. I’m gone and done. What does make me mad is what my government does “in my behalf” for “my own good” that I don’t agree with while I am living like going into other countries and killing people and sending my friends over there to come back in a box, or lying to me and deceiving me about my healthcare. I don’t care about what a religion tells me or anyone else as long as they aren’t impacting me and my rights to choose what I want to do or believe.

    Who cares if the Islamist thinks they are going to get 70 or whatever number of virgins if they die as a martyr as long as they aren’t wearing an explosive vest to impose their opinion and their judgment upon me. And where do these virgins come from anyway? Do they have any choice in the matter? Shouldn’t we all be appalled that this smacks of sexual slavery?

    Pick any philosophy, religious, political, or science based and it doesn’t take much intelligence to poke holes in it particularly if you use the internet as you cited “knowledge base”. In this world there are lots of opinions and very few facts, if we remember that we might have a chance at some form of peace.

  • bumblebee

    Wow, non- Mormons sure think they know a lot about our religion, don’t they? It’s fine saying all those things, but have any of you actually spoken to an actual Mormon or bothered to research our religion in the tiniest of detail?
    First of all, we ARE christian, we’re a branch of Christianity. The “true Christian” comments in this article are downright insulting as being a “Christian” simply means “to believe in Jesus Christ” how can you say a religion that calls itself “The church of JESUS CHRIST of later day saints” is not “Truly Christian”??
    Also, the no t.v. on Sundays rule may be true for some families, but it certainly isn’t a commandment sent from God. My family use Sundays as a time to watch a film together, because that’s what brings us closer. Sundays are just a time for Families to be together. I’ve also had non-Mormon friends visit my house on Sundays before, this is not unheard of as we are allowed to to that, we just don’t do anything that takes us away from being spiritually uplifted on a Sunday.
    The Dark skin turning to white is certainly a new one for me, I’ve never ever heard anything so ludicrous. Going to our Church can’t turn someone’s skin colour, that is not stated in any of our beliefs.
    I’ve also never heard of the “Love isn’t as strong for non-mormons” one. Love isn’t controllable like that. It can happen anywhere, with anyone. Being Mormon doesn’t change that.
    And lastly, the one that most people are talking about: baptisms for the dead. As you might have guessed, we believe in life after death. But what most people don’t know is that you don’t get put into one of the three heavens right away, we give people a chance. It’s only fair. If someone hasn’t even heard of our religion, how could God possibly judge them? So, we are baptised in representation of the deceased person. Which means, we ourselves are physically baptised so that the person who died can make the choice to be baptised or not. They don’t have to be. And this is after they are taught of our beliefs just like a person would come and investigate the Church and then choose whether or not to be baptised on earth.

    Take this from an LDS Mormon, our religion makes sense. I don’t go to church just for kicks. I go to church because I genuinely believe that our religion teaches doctrine that is true. I love being a Mormon and I’m happy to be one, as are countless others. If all those people are Mormon, and if we’re the “fastest growing religion” then we can’t be as strange as others make it us to be. 🙂

  • bumblebee

    Are you a Mormon? Have you asked a Mormon about the truthfulness of this article? If the answer to these is “no” then I don’t think you pose a very good argument. Also, have you read the comments of actual Morons on this site contradicting this article which is written by a non mormon? The answer is probably yes, what better information to get than the information of an actual Mormon? We’re not lying, we have no reason to. This article does have some truth, but a lot of it isn’t. People are determined to think that our religion is crazy, but personally I find it the one thing in this world that makes 100% sense.

  • Brian Janot

    The light of science makes religion grow dimmer.

  • An informed person

    Most of this is untrue and and here’s why:

    1. Not official church doctrine.

    2. The idea of paying money for salvation is denounced in the Book of Mormon. Paying tithing is simply a show of good will and willingness to give up material possessions for a greater cause. This was even practiced in ancient Israel, and was taught by many prophets, including Malachi. (Malachi 3:10; “Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.”)

    3. While it is true that Mormons believe in multiple tiers of heaven, we believe that the judgement isn’t based on a balance of good and bad acts, or what we’ve done. It is a judgement of our character and how our actions affected others, or what we’ve become. Not only that, but our idea of three tiers of heaven stems from the Bible. (see 1 Corinthians 15:40-42)

    4. Not official church doctrine. This is practiced by many parents, as Mormons consider the Sabbath to be a special day to set aside activities and focus on worship, but isn’t mandated. I would know because my parents did this to me, although I attended church with the neighbor boys across the street who would often go out and play with their friends.

    5. The idea of somebody’s skin turning white for believing in a church is absurd. The LDS Church has never taught this, and anybody who believes this is, in no uncertain terms, unabashedly ignorant. This idea comes from a passage in the Book of Mormon, which states that the Lamanites had a skin of blackness to distinguish them from the Nephites. I suppose that this may be interpreted literally; However, there are many ways to interpret that, and that doesn’t mean that all people with dark skin will suddenly turn white for becoming a Mormon.

    6. This is true, actually, although worded in a way to make the Church seem discriminatory. They believe that temple marriage is the only form of marriage authorized by God, and as such is the only one permanently binding. Temple-recommend holders may perform marriages for the dead in the temple, so that deceased couples’ marriages may become binding. This can be seen on the church’s website and I bet there are many members who will be open about it. (

    7. This is true, although I personally don’t see how that’s weird or a bad thing.

    8. I’m not surprised that the author didn’t cite a source for this,

    9. The key word in this paragraph is that “there has been no official statement made by the LDS church stating the age of the planet.” This isn’t official church doctrine and shouldn’t be presented as such.

    10. I’ve taken LDS Institute and I know for a FACT that I was never taught about other planets or dinosaur bones. Who ever came up with this is grossly misinformed.

    I hope that I clarified some things, although if somebody has something to say I’d love to hear it.

  • Captain_Hook

    The more I learn about Mormon beliefs and Joseph Smith, the more is sounds like the revelation of the Quran to Mohammed. Or most alien abduction stories, when you get down to it. A single person, with no witnesses, comes back with an amazing story but no evidence. At least Buddha encouraged his followers to seek evidence whether what he said was true or not, but then Buddhist scripture, if you can even call it scripture, isn’t about amazing fairy tales, but about results that proceed from the consequences of your own actions. Not in Heaven or someplace you cannot prove exists, but right here, right now.

  • Captain_Hook

    If a Message is subject to interpretation, then it must not be sufficiently clear that everyone understands it the same way, in which case, the Message, or the Messenger, must not be perfect after all.
    Unless said Message is designed to make one think, which is not the case in religions that require absolute, unquestioning faith.

  • Captain_Hook

    Everyone must believe in something. Episcopalians believe they’d like a drink.

  • zinfan

    What about all of the Jews who were killed in Germany during WWII and were baptised by proxy? The church was asked by the Jews to have to have their Baptisims reversed. I don’t think there families provided their names to the church for Proxy.
    I have lived in Utah for 65 years and never been a mormon. Along the way, I have been told by good members of everything in this article. It was very accurate and enlightening, One thing left out is how many members believe in Kolob….where is it, Is it a planet or a star. Read the Kolob Theorum. Not many physicists believe in the authors concensus. It couldn’t be in our solar system, so it must be somewhere out in our galaxy. Isn’t that where Adam lives?

  • ….

    Wow this is so wrong its pathetic…

  • joe the grinder

    The Bible categorically states that you should do nothing for the dead. The living are not to communicate with the dead. Read the story of Saul having the witch call upon the dead Samuel. Jesus said-“Let the dead bury their dead. but go thou and preach the Kingdom of God” At the point of death one’s eternal destiny is confirmed.

  • joe the grinder

    What is so interesting about it? Typical humanist ego-driven falsehood. Do you think man is the Creator of the universe?

  • Elisabet

    Learn about Mormonism, then talk about it.

    PS: I am from Spain and everything is open on Sundays 😉

  • Unknown

    Most of these things are completely untrue. I am personally a Mormon and I only believe in one God. If you do not pay tithing you do not go to Hell it is advised. The BOM is only another testimant of Jesus Christ. Mormons are christians we believe in God and Jesus Christ, but the only difference is we have a little more. I am willing to bet that all of the people that are shaming the Latter Day Saints have A) Never read the BOM therefore have no right to say anything about it B) Have never come to the church C) Have been hurt by someone that was a member of the church or D) Are just going off of all of the crazy rumors that have been spread. No we do not have horns, or tails, or multiple spouses and yes we have temple marriages and baptizms FOR the dead where someone is in place of the dead person where they weren’t able to do it for themselves because they were never given the chance and yes we have special underwear, but we are not crazy wakadoos who praise Satan. We love and praise God and God alone.

  • Unknown

    I am very sad you feel this way

  • larry

    We dont believe in multiple gods and planets, we don’t believe that dinosaurs bones are from other planets, we don’t believe the earth is only 7000 years old

  • DestryDanger

    That’s a whole bunch of crazy. What if someone wants nothing to do with that hoopla, or they believe in a different afterlife or no afterlife? How is that not an imposing practice? It’s spiritual empiricism, plain and simple, it is to religious belief what the British Empire was to outside culture. It’s deceitful and undermines any level of respect and understanding the lds church pretends to have towards other believes and religions.

  • Shawna Prettyman

    I wish I could up vote this and the other comments really explaining this and other misunderstood doctrines about a thousand times so people can see them. I’ve never really read these forums and definitely never commented but feel the need to say that I was flabbergasted at the article, mostly by the certainty that it is written as true specifically regarding the baptism for the dead. In response to the comments, the LDS religion does not need any justification or the extremely “abnormal and ludicrous” idea of baptizing others who have passed. As stated by many, this practice merely allows those who are no longer with us the ability to accept or deny. It’s crazy to me that people can actually write things like what I’ve seen in the comments and really think they know fully what they are talking about. I guess the best I can say is be a smarter consumer of knowledge, as it seems more everyone here is basically educated. Therefore, question what you are being told about the LDS church, don’t believe everything you hear once, and do your own research. I would encourage you to meet with missionaries as well if you are really interested about specific doctrine. They are open to any an all questions!

  • Maria

    I’m sorry Terri but your answers are even more crazy than the article!!! You are trying to defend “your truth” and has no sense at all. You are following a men cult, darling, not a God’s religion. Re-read what you wrote and you can see there’s anything that comes from Jesus, our savior. You seem a good woman and you’re desire to be close to God just need to find His truth and is not in where you think it is. Find Him 🙂 God bless

  • peanutbutter

    Mormons started for the purpose of praying for and baptizing dead people.(ex.Anne Frank) They were looking up all of these dead people and they decided,”hey we can make money on this information that we’re collecting anyways, lets sell it.” I’m sorry but Mormonism is weird. It’s right there with the Jo-hos, Scientology, and the Duggars. It’s about one step above Jim Jones territory. If it works for you, that’s great but you’re not going to be able to convince most other people that it’s totally normal because it’s creepy.

  • Robert Ramos

    I just read this and would argue how “almost there” many of the statements are or how wrong others are but I won’t because I the editors note kinda put the article in perspective, that this is from how outsiders look at the church. Also, I’m sure they’ve heard it all before.

  • Anony Mous

    FYI, LDS is the most rapidly expanding religion on earth.

  • Anony Mous

    We do not believe the earth to only be 7000 years old, nor do we claim that dinosaurs were extraterrestrials. We do not believe that black LDS members turn white, or that it is prohibited for children to play on Monday. We do not necessarily know that there are many planets, each with their own god, but we do believe that god has a wife and siblings. And as for the three heavens, does a gradient sound absurd when you’re talking about morality? Does a gradient sound absurd when you’re talking about almost anything else? You just find it ridiculous because you’ve been raised being trained to find it strange.

  • Anony Mous

    It gives them the OPTION to join us in the afterlife. Just let us believe what we believe.

  • Sarah Lindsay

    I have only recently left the mormon church close to 2 years ago, I was a member for nearly 30 years and the book that more contradicts the bible is doctorine and covenants. It perverts the beautiful things in the bible like the new and everlasting covenant which is actually described in hebrews and tells you you must be married in the temple to recieve the highest glory and become a god when paul actually says its better to not be married because you have no distractions of a spouse and devote more time to spiritual matters but that there was no law stating that you must or cannot marry however. And mormon doctorine says that the unforgiveable sin of blasphemy against the holy spirit is taking an innocent life, which is an ugly and hateful sin but Paul was forgiven after having countless christians killed and persecuted. Turns out the guy wrote most of the new testament. Anyone who has spent time reading through the bible then reads doctorine and covenants would be appauled, It’s where it states that we will be exalted as gods above the angels unless we werent worthy then we are merely angels and thus servants that cannot have increase. The bible says we are adopted into the kingdom and are equal to the angels. They do believe that our creator is one of many (gods) when Isaiah 45 clearly state that there is not any god beside him, he knows not one. He is alpha and omega, beginning and end. He alone is God! seriously though, read it for yourself, it’s ugly lies. I once was blind but now I see, God opened my eyes to how wonderful he is!

  • sarah Lindsay

    He is not the God of the dead, but of the living mark 12, luke 20, and matthew 22. See also philipians 1 where he isnt talking about physical death or life much like being born again to walk in spirit. They are misinterpreting something very beautiful. I agree with you

  • Prof. D. Shelton Parker

    For those of you that do not understand, but think you do, your comments are OK.
    But for the ones that claim to know and understand all the languages and times of said translations of the bible, you I fill sorry for.
    Most of you do not have a clue of what you are talking about.
    This includes the author of this article.
    The only way for you to know the truth at this point in time ( because you appear unteachable ) is for you to drop dead. But, remember this, suicide is a sin.
    Until you die, just think of one thing, if we ( LDS ) are wrong, no harm is done, but if we are correct, you have turned your back on GOD and his teachings.
    But the good thing is this, God loves you anyway.

  • Julianne Austin

    Poor child. You insult people and their beliefs simply to make yourself feel better. I think it is sad when people are so insecure about themselves that they have to bash on other people’s lives

  • DestryDanger

    I don’t want that option. Let me believe what I want to believe. It’s still imposing.

  • BeautywithAbbie

    such crap… dude really? Guys, apparently i believe that black people skin will turn white when they convert? Love learning what I believe from a random stranger, its the best. I mean what bugs me the most is people saying “any mormon who says this isn’t true is wrong.” ?????? Like.. bud, I’ve been mormon my entire life where I have recieved doctrine we actually believe, whereas you take crap spewed from the writer, as truth. I mean wether you like us or not you’ve GOT to be smart enough to know a good portion of this is SO UNTRUE. Wow, it’s interesting how an author can just blow everything out of porportion. And everyone will just believe it. btw I play with friends on sunday I just had a friend over today. god bless!

  • I Am Omega

    I was
    unfortunate enough to be born into an all-Mormon family. Single mother,
    grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins…al Mormon. I was taught from
    childhood to be “reverent” in church….which is basically to say
    “don’t have fun and be a kid”. Don’t run around and play
    and do what children love to do. It made me less of a kid in all aspects
    of life. One sad thing about the church. Upon reaching teenage
    years, I was herded into a convoy of vans and sent to the Atlanta temple to do
    “baptisms for the dead”. That dressed us up in practically see
    thru white outfits, ,and directed us into a very weird baptismal pool “round,with
    four figurines…some with bull heads, eagle heads…just can’t remember
    exactly, just a weird elaborate pool. One adult was in the pool with us and
    dunked us 10 times each in a different name of a dead person…with another
    adult in front in the audience to make sure we went all the way under and it
    was, I guess, then “officially”, the dead person was baptized.

    I remember when I got a little older and a
    little more liberal with my behavior I was disqualified in participating any
    more. Seems almost like since I had lost my virginity I wasn’t suitable
    for such a ritual anymore. Anyway, after 16 years old my immediate family
    got out of that horrible religion. It wasn’t until I became a born again
    Christian that I truly received a spiritual freedom from the damage done from a
    church TOTALLY focused on subordinate behavior in line with the leadership of
    the church, past and present. My eyes, mind and internal voice was opened
    to the fact that God thru the Holy Spirit talks to us directly…we don’t need
    a modern day prophet or church “President” to tell us individually
    what is right or wrong.

    point though…my mom is a born again Christian and sings and is happy all the
    time, even being without a mate. My aunt and grandmother have lost their
    mates…and are absolutely miserable. They actually were before they lost
    their husbands, just more so now. Overall, they are bi-polar…not in the
    sense of the psychiatric disorder sense, but in a spiritual sense. While
    one side of them loves people, another side causes them to hate people, talk
    bad about people behind their backs, judge people and have NO PEACE.
    Overall…they are miserable. Regardless of what Mormons profess to
    believe, Jesus said it best, you can tell a tree from its fruit. Mormons
    are not Christian but Pseudo Christian. They walk like a Christian,
    talk like a Christian, but don’t have the gifts of the Holy Spirit like a true
    Christian…thus the perfect analogy to Jesus’ parable of the tree. And
    all of my external family are white supremacist. Seems to go hand in hand with their plagiarized
    Book of Mormon writings that colored folks are so for sin they committed.

    I will note an exception…some people are
    just more Christian than Mormon and thus Christian…but there is a problem for
    anyone selling their soul to the devil….one day he is going to come and
    collect. I believe Mormons are exempt from demonic possession because the
    devil wants them to be successful because he has a very special role for them
    in the future. You have to be careful when you dabble in magic and
    sorcery. Magical garments…you chose to wear them but do you really know
    what color of magic is on them? God
    might just hold you to your oaths. Stuck on a planet of Mormons when there
    is a universe of planets out there to be visited…I would consider that a
    hell. Being married eternally to one woman when you should
    naturally eternally go from one to the next, each one better than
    before…another potential hell. I just think that Mormons do things
    naively with serious eternal repercussions. One day I guess we will
    all find out. I say, let them have the planet of the Celestial
    kingdom..I’m going to the Kingdom of Heaven…and there in that place are
    trillions of living planets to visit.

  • DJ

    Thare are many inactive mormans who dont neciseraly beleive LDS. It becomes difficult to seperate the two. Thare is also mormens who are active as well that arnt in complete agreement with LDS teachings. As another thing mormens are also taught to question there religion and pray about whats right regardless of what religion they were or will be in. As for the attacks I am uncertain of the tone implied or the person behind them. I do note that I am not writeing this out of anger however just kindly makeing some new suggestins and noteing your comments. I am LDS I beleive things that go a bit deeper into the religion as well. The three heavens wich are actually the three kingdoms of glory are what comes after heaven and hell the middle kingdom is a mix of the more good like people in hell and the unacomplished people in heaven such as nonmembers. The lowest kingdom is for the the lesser of the worst for people like hemler, hitler and even vlad the impailer. There is also a place refferd to as outerdarkness where prophets, angels and those who have wittenised god then betrayed him and Satan/Lucifer co self. Outerdarkness also comes after heaven and hell and is way worse then hell. I personaly beleive that if the said consumible is helpfull insted of harmfull to the body that it is fine however higher members of the church may not tell you this because it becomes a scapegoat excuss to break the word of wisdom without considering first. As for the many gods and planet, the creation of worlds is up to speculation and prayer. Much as a neverending amount of knowlidge cant really be put in a few 10000 page bookes. The age of the planet is also up to speculation as the earth was made in 7 godly days and not mortal so it becomes questionible if the 7000 years are godly or even line up purfectly with todays math. Group calculations arnt always true for every individual. As for the strength of love the pressince of god and the holy ghost acts as a tool for couples to know eachother more profoundly. As well ide like to acolige that love is the exact oppasit of lust. Aslust is similer to envy, fear and greed while love is the emotional attachmint to a person(s) place or thing. Marrige dare I say it is not about love but families are. Marrige is about having children and being able to receive the help and funds for them from Government/Holyghost. Tithing is a trade off to help the church grow and prosper. Inreturn blessings are received. God does not punish but tries to help all in the long run. So things may seem bad but theres always some good that becomes of it. We have freewill it is are choices that has put us here today. This is what the Moemans/LDS beleive. Thanks for reading and I hope this helped you all in one way or another and as of joining the church its completly up to you all. I only hope yull try to find what makes you truely happy. Have a good one.

  • Truth seeker

    The “salamander” so called vision was forged by a man seeking to sell it to the Church. This same guy killed others to try and cover up what he did and now sits in prison. plus when writing an anti-Mormon article you should have cites from the LDS site, the book of Mormon, and thing that current leaders of the Church say. That would also make this a far argumentative article.

  • terrybr

    You are showing your stupid.

  • terrybr

    Sure, we’ll tolerate your lunancy. Just quit knocking on our damn doors.

  • Debs

    Joseph Smith ordained 1 black man and was directly told by God that it was a mistake. No other black man was “given” the priesthood until 1978. It’s in the church archives and in Joseph Smith’s history of the church.

  • Debs

    By spelling you’re wrong, you showed that you, yourself, are stupid.

  • They are going to knock on our doors when we are dead too…. jerks.

  • Freddy

    People talking on here like they’re actually going to change someone else’s belief lol. People who don’t want to become LDS member are going to look at any misinformation they can so they can use it to keep them from actually reading the Book of Mormon and gaining a testimony of its truthfulness for themselves. They will do everything in the world but actually read the book of Mormon for themselves. Ironically, these are the same exact people who have never read the Bible either and have absolutely no desire to pattern their own life after Christ. They would much rather make fun of Mormons because of the word of wisdom because the world says that coffee is OK and tes is OK and cigarettes are OK and pre-mortal existence is nonsense and premarital sex is absolutely OK because it is the standards of the world today. They have absolutely no idea that the word of wisdom is absolutely nothing more than a word to the wise to steer clear of tricks that Satan will use to keep your mind and your body in bondage and captivity. Same can be said of every principle and ordinance of the gospel, all it will do will steer you clear of Satan’s traps labor for you to ensnare your mind and your body and ultimately your soul. The end.

  • Eliza

    I thought this was a very interesting article. I, being a Mormon myself found many flaws and common misunderstandings in this article.
    -For one, children not playing with friends on Sunday’s is not necessarily a doctorinal belief that is taught in the religion. We are taught to refrain from any activities that cannot invite the presence of the spirit. It is up to each individual family whether or not their children should be allowed to play with their peers on the sabbath day.
    -next, dark skin turning to light. I don’t know where you heard that. One of my closest friends, actually, is African American and is a Mormon as well.
    -it is true that we believe in order to be married after this life, a marriage in the temple must be held, however the purpose of this temple marriage is that the couple is ‘sealed’ together. For any couple who converts and is already married, they can be sealed without a temple marriage.
    – in no way whatsoever do Mormons teach or believe that love is stronger among Mormons than non Mormons. That is absolutely outrageous and I senserly hope that you will change your mind on the matter because it hurts me to think that people out there think that Mormons would be such aweful people.
    – lastly, I’m not entirely sure what doctorin we have that is even remotely close to the paragraph about dinosaurs and the fossils. But I would like to do some research because that is an interesting interpretation.

    In no way was this an attack to the author. But you have to understand that when it comes to a topic so close to my heart, and one that I believe so strongly, I get a little defensive. If you have any more questions, I encourage you to visit **personal site removed**. And thank you for taking such an interest in Mormons. I agree that it is a very interesting religion.

  • Christina Otis

    I think probably my biggest issue is that half of these things, which you’ve called “beliefs” of members of the church are simply cultural beliefs, not doctrinal. For example, there is no church literature (doctrinal) that stays the earth is 7,000 years old. There are some works by early leaders that may say things of that nature, but those are not canonical. There are several conservative Christians of other faiths who believe the same, and thousands upon thousands of Christians (and Mormons) who definitely don’t believe that that is the case. It is the same in the case of fossils. There are definitely some Mormons who believe that, but again, there is no doctrine to support that belief.
    While I have heard some Mormons express that marriages are sometimes weaker out of the covenant, I have never, ever heard anyone say that someone’s love for another is weaker. That claim is ludicrous and does not apply to the majority of Mormons.
    The claim that Mormon kids don’t play with their friends or watch tv on Sunday is again, cultural practice, not doctrinal. The doctrine is to keep the sabbath day holy, to spend the day in contemplation of the Lord and to keep your mind single to Him. Many people throughout the world spend extra time with friends and family members on Sundays, because relationships are the basis of the gospel. Maybe not doing the things others would do, but spending time together.
    The idea that dark skin will turn light is one that I’ve heard speculated about, but only in anti-Mormon forums, never by faithful members. Or maybe an old guy who’s still racist and calls everyone of color racist names and thinks that everyone who’s not white has something against everyone who is…

    Cultural beliefs and doctrinal beliefs are not the same, and should not be construed as such. It’s also culturally unusual in Utah to find people who tip well, but that doesn’t mean it’s doctrine to avoid tipping your servers. Writing pieces like this confuses the two, and makes it much harder for the normal Mormons to live normal lives. So many of these are fringe or cultural beliefs, it is rude and offensive to apply them universally.

  • Christina Otis

    From A Mormon’s mouth. There are lots of people in the world who think oral sex is wrong, there are also people who believe sex for any reason besides procreation is wrong. Not all Mormons. In fact, most of my generation is pretty ok with experimentation, as long as it’s with your spouse. .. we’re also not the only ones who believe in monogamy. So, you may know some suppressed sex freak Mormons, but that doesn’t represent the majority (maybe you need different friends? ).
    Caffeine is not specifically banned, people drink it all the time.
    Don’t spew garbage just because you heard it once

  • truth

    exactly.. they misinterpret everything.. god told us not to consort w the dead.

  • truth

    for real.. a symbol is on each nipple.. unreal..just looking at the temple..i can feel the false spirits.

  • truth

    they also tell new converts to pray and ask the holy spirit to cofirm if it is real or not.. the bottom line..they are not praying to the true holy spirit.. of course the demons will confirm it as real.

  • truth

    its empathic but its a lie. and i personally have had it up to here w the hidden things going on. i love satanists.. they are much more straight forward.. praying for their salvation!

  • truth

    no man created this world. it was only a real god.. man are they deceived. they are impossible to minister to..they are indoctrinated from before birth.

  • truth

    wendell you are living a lie. jesus christ is lord (he is god) he is the jesus of nazareth..he did not come to america. and i will be praying your eyes will be opened and the veil removed.

  • truth

    they are interceding.. but it is wrong intercession. we can only intercede for those living.. to make a choice before they die.

  • truth

    each man is appointed once to die. you must make your choice in the true jesus (who is god)) before you die..and there is one heaven and one hell. they will receive eternall hellfire if not saved before they die. you are living a lie.

  • truth

    there is one war. devil vs. the true god (the real jesus of the bible who is god). i follow the true holy spirit.. not any church.

  • truth

    i guess you are deceived by the church 😛

  • truth

    i pray the spirit of truth over this thread..that the lies of the enemy will be broken off in jesus of nazareth true name.. he is god.. father son and holy spirit being one god. i pray up against the deception that is the mormon church.. using goodness as a veil.. to entertain spirits that deceive.. it will bring many to hell thru goodness.. unknowingly.. since sinners are not taught they must choose now..or they will face hell fire..i come up against the indoctrination that is the mormon church..and the false spirits that are pulling you to this church.. the true church is christ.. the true christ.. jesus christ of nazareth of the bible alone.. who resides in our heart once we choose his name.. the devil is a liar. and he will deceive even the me i know..i am elect.

  • truth

    are you a christian ryan?

  • You’ll have to be more specific. These days 10 people could have 10 different definitions of what it means to be Christian in modern society. Unfortunately, your definition often depends on which man-made religious sect you belong to. Luckily, when it comes down to cold-hard facts, religious belief has no influence.

  • skmannes

    There are stops in place so that those of the LDS faith cannot baptize anyone of Jewish heritage that were alive during the Holocaust (ex. Anne Frank). Further, the LDS church does not own

  • Joe Cyprowski

    but GOD tore down the Veil why do mormoms believe the Veil is still there? Matthew 27:51New King James Version (NKJV)

    51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split,

  • Joe Cyprowski

    Joseph Smith was a CON-MAN searching for a get rich quick scheme .. do you really believe GOD needs your 10% tithing? Where will he spend all the $80billion net worth of mormonism?

  • Joe Cyprowski

    the FREE MASON symbols the “All seeing eye, the Beehive, the inverted star AKA as pentagram the Sun god…

  • Sean1122

    FYI, That’s because it’s a relatively new religion, so when compared to religions thousands of years old, yes, it is expanding at a faster pace. Also, the church includes people who have left the religion, which they call “inactive”. It’s quite a lengthy process to get your name removed from church records, so many don’t bother. I remember hearing about how rapidly the church was expanding growing up in the religion. More people are leaving the LDS religion than ever before. Largely because you can go on the internet and find facts that contradict church teachings as well as discover things about the religions history that many find disturbing.

  • Sean1122

    Mormons believe in polygamy. The church publicly denounced it when they realized the majority of society weren’t exactly “cool” with it. Lets take divorce for instance. If a woman gets divorced after being sealed in the temple, she must get a ” temple divorce” to get remarried, or “resealed” rather. On the other hand, a man can get divorced and sealed to as many women as he wants. He also, once reaching the celestial kingdom, has the ability to decide whether or not his wife, or wives, were worthy enough in life to join him in the celestial kingdom. A bit off topic… but when you consider the founder of the religion, Joseph Smith, was a polygamist, having something like 34 wives (the youngest being 14) it’s hard to say they believe in monogamy, even though now theyve changed it. The polygamy/JosephSmith info can be found on the churches website.

  • That is a deceptive statement, because there is clearly tight collaboration between FamilySearch and – meaning data/database is opened up to the Mormon’s pulling genealogy data out of’s databases.

  • Jessica Long

    If you don’t believe in the LDS church then you wouldn’t believe they have the ability/authority to tie you to them for all eternity. Using that same logic I wouldn’t care if the Church of Satan held a baptism for me because I don’t believe they have any authority to do so.

  • Jessica Long

    A Christian is a person who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ. Mormons believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. They believe in the bible and believe the Book of Mormon to be another testament of Christ. Tea and coffee being prohibited is not a “little known fact” it is well known and can be easily found in the Word of Wisdom in the Doctrine and Covenants portion of their scriptures. Drinking coffee is not a requirement of a campaign and Mitt Romney is well aware that it is prohibited in the LDS religion and he doesn’t drink coffee…(stick to facts…not guessing, assuming or just making things up because you don’t have the will power to get through a day without drinking coffee, and can’t imagine anyone else can)
    The LDS church doesn’t specify anywhere that children can’t play with friends on Sunday, or that TV can’t be watched. They believe the Sabbath day is a day of rest and a day of worship, which if you are familiar with the Bible (Genesis) is a pretty common Christian belief. It is up to LDS church members to determine what is appropriate on the Sabbath. The church does specify not to shop on the Sabbath and recommends only working if necessary, but again these are pretty common Christian beliefs as well.
    I grew up with a Methodist father, Seventh day Adventist Grandparents, a Mason Grandfather. I lived in the Bible belt and studied and went to church with Baptists, Church of Christ Members, Pentecostals, and other religions. I’ve studied Mormonism as well and some of your statements are completely false. There are plenty of strange things about the Mormon church, why not just talk about the true strange things? When you look at Christianity, or Catholics, or Jewish, or Islamic religions there are a lot of strange things in those religions as well.

  • Dallin Radke

    im mormon and none of this is true.i dont really care anyway.

  • Jacob Lawrence

    I understand that everyone here is seeking for facts but please don’t attack us and our beliefs. We seek to follow God and are trying our best as imperfect people to live a better life. Thank you to those who are honestly discussing this and to those who use this as an opportunity to debate and to tear down another person’s belief I ask that you kindly refrain from such negativity.

  • kitty

    The MO of the LDS church is to never explicitly disavow anything that a past prophet or apostle has taught or written, but rather to stop talking about it in general conference talks, and to no longer put it in lesson manuals that get distributed yearly. That is arguably the Mormon version of disavowal. I can believe that at some point some Mormon authority figure said all of this stuff, but that doesn’t make all of this “Mormon beliefs.”

    Would you hold a Catholic to everything any pope has said ex cathedra going back more than 1000 years? I doubt it. That’s not playing nice.

  • gary perkins

    Umm, yeah, so you’re saying that my “ghost” can attend a little seance party where you have a “proxy” for me stand inside a little curtained in closet while other people reach through the curtain and rub oil all over my ghosts’ stand in while chanting Masonic err I mean Mormon phrases in order to give my ghost an opportunity to join your cul err I mean “religion”…..

    Like yeah, you’re not crazy…..Not at all.

  • gary perkins

    Couple of BILLION Hindus are laughing at you right now..

  • gary perkins

    Poor ignorant twit, I feel bad when people’s lives are so empty that they have to believe in fairy tales..

  • gary perkins

    How ironic, a Mormon instructing someone on how to look “less moronic”.

  • gary perkins

    Mormons are MORONS

  • Zachary Esplin

    Its funny how you don’t use the mormon web site for a sorce. like almost you didnt want real answers.

  • Didn’t want to spread propaganda.

  • Graffitiwomen

    Actually I think terrybr actually meant “your stupid is showing’ so it’s not wrong, you just didn’t get it, mate! And if the Mormons are even thinking about baptising me after I’m dead, well, I’m putting a cease and desister clause in my will….already been baptised, don’t want some crazy folk baptising me after I’m dead….

  • Graffitiwomen

    You know, my Dad, who I firmly believe is now in heaven, always told me ‘beware of anyone who takes pieces of the Bible out of context’ because each book TELLS a story, therefore you can’t take bits and pieces of each book and use them as you will ….that’s ALMOST sacrilegious!

  • Graffitiwomen

    So true! I think God would rather me not starve here on earth than give 10% of my measly income (under $800/mo) than give and rush to join him early! It’s all well and good if you can afford to pay tithes, and if those tithes are used to help the poor and destitute, those in need of help HERE ON EARTH! I’m no theologian, but I think the idea of charity is a big deal to Jesus….

  • Graffitiwomen

    Again, quoting the bible out of context like this is not something God would like…..and, off topic here, but WHY do people think Catholicism is “different” than regular Christianity? I was brought up protestant amd converted to Catholicism about 4 years ago and…….BIG SURPRISE! They are almost exactly the same……sorry. smh

  • Heber Frank

    “… Mormon doctrine asserts that God was once an ordinary human being who once lived on earth like an everyday man. ”

    But THINK———

    Jesus was seen as a ordinary human who lived on this earth by all except those close to him and saw his miracles. Revealing Jesus to earth by God included the unmistakable fact that He is a being like us.

    The words “Father” and “Son” apply to beings in a lineage of beings. So, by that understanding, Jesus, as the Son of God, will progress and become like His Father on a future earth. And the Father was once a Son on a previous earth with a Father before him. When Stephen looked up and saw Jesus standing on the right hand of the Father, he saw two resurrected beings.

    Mormons believe that being a Joint-Heir with Christ (Romans 8:17) actually means just that. Abraham and Sarah will become Joint Heirs with Jesus. Thus they, who lived on our earth, will inherit the same powers and responsibility that Christ has, in connection with Him. And we also can become Joint Heirs with Christ.

    God is a beginning-less family union of resurrected beings like Jesus and Abraham and Sarah from previous earths in perfect John 17 unity. This Union that is the “One Infinite God” is eternal, unchanging and has all tri-Omni power. But the finite beings, like Jesus and Abraham and Sarah that as Children of that Union became one with God in John 17 unity, they as individuals are in a state of eternal progression.

    The creedal understanding of God was developed by philosophers, and is not the Word of the Lord to the Prophets of Israel. The creedal understanding of “Father” and “Son” is openly disingenuous, but has been perpetuated by fear and dogmatism.

    The creeds were used for political purposes in a power grab when the Roman Empire reinvented itself as a Church, hijacked Christianity and branded anyone evil that taught different than their orthodoxy– and thus deserving to die. Why should we believe the creedal understanding of God, when it was basically ADDED to the Bible by men seeking power? .

  • Abby

    I am a Mormon and most of the topics discussed in this article is false!!!!!!! Why trust this when you can go websites created by our church to learn more about it. Believing in this is like believing a Christian on the teachings of Buddhists. THERE will be wrong information. So just go to one of our websites to answer your questions.

  • ray nelson

    Thanks, Debs. We posted at the same moment.

  • None of your business

    This article is blasphemy, 100% wrong!! Absolutely no truth in this article whatsoever.

  • Kateri Blackwing

    Mormons are total Whackos too many rules

  • MarthaMyDearTX

    Mormons…hahahaha! No sense of humor. I mean you actually READ this list, right? It’s pretty nutty! Like Scientology, really…

  • MarthaMyDearTX

    God help us all then!

  • MarthaMyDearTX

    You’re absolutely right!

  • PrudenceAnn Cote

    “The Book of Mormon constantly contradicts the bible. ” this is a false statement, I was a fundamental Baptist for years and attended numerous conferences about cults. The one thing that stuck out in my mind was that the Bible Scholars who were quoted at these conferences all agreed that the Book of Mormon did NOT contradict the Bible.

  • PrudenceAnn Cote

    Actually is not owned by the LDS church. That is a false premise. I have done genealogy research with the help of the mormon church and it was free unless they had to send out for information elsewhere. They do have genealogy libraries I think everywhere they have a church building.

  • PrudenceAnn Cote
    This link to the Billy Graham site. Explains that Tithing is scriptural from the old testament and that the principle is understood in a slightly different light from New Testament times to the present, in that the WILLINGNESS to tithe is considered a measure of one’s faith.

  • This is just semantics. The collaboration between the two organizations is so tight that they essentially own/control much of the information.

  • Kim Redlin

    I was just dating someone who was mormon at first its oh it doesnt matter your catholic but after awhile it does matter. Your treated like an ” outsider” who lives on planet earth but not in their world. There world being of unwritten rules for you to follow.

  • Kim Redlin

    Thanks the best thing on here….love it

  • Kim Redlin


  • brickboo
  • This is that verse from The Voice translation as Mormons are anti-science too as I am a theistic evolutionist being I am a Christian (Assemblies of God) who acknowledges the epic of evolution. “Then, when all creation has taken its rightful place beneath God’s sovereign reign, the Son will follow, subject to the Father who exalted Him over all created things; then God will be God over all.”

  • Melany Van Every

    ah nicky still thinking people care about your opinions on topics that are from YEARS ago.

  • Noah Nicholes

    Could I clarify some things? I don’t know if this site is still monitored, I was looking for weird “Mormon culture” things but found this instead. We don’t believe in the earth being 7000 years old, we are encouraged to seek truth, like the earth being WAY older. The dino bones being from other planets is another one I can confirm is NOT taught. Like every other religion we too have a lot of oddballs who say pretty much anything they think is real. Take these sites with a grain of salt please. I’m open to answer some questions if you really feel the burning need to ask.

  • 고은김

    The fact is … the church is not a new church. Jesus himself is the founder of The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

  • 고은김

    Top Secret Writer Please show your true Identity! all the information are wrong! you just want attention thats why you created false information.

  • Our About Us page has all of our real identities. Also — the article is fully cited. One of the best sources, in my opinion, is When we cover cults, we tend to avoid using propaganda from the cult itself, this is why direct mormon sites were note listed.

  • No, Joseph Smith, a convicted fraudster, founded the church after he stuck his head in a hat, stared at a rock, and claimed to have translated ancient text from golden plates. Joseph Smith was not Jesus.

  • 고은김 seriousy? the website itself its exmormon and that means he or she created false story because he or she is against the Mormons. and that also means he or she was a mormon before and right now he or she is againts the teachings of that mormon church thats the reason why he or she created false story or information.

  • Ruby Browning Vice

    Joseph Smith was schizophrenic.

  • It means these are people who have had direct experience living life inside of the Mormon religion.

  • 고은김

    Yes your right but they don’t understand the teachings.

  • Jaya F

    Such an old post – I’m fascinated, though! I’m amazed at all the offshoots of what is, essentially, a Jewish cult (ie. ‘mainstream’ Christianity). There is so much mis-information about the mis-information… astounding!
    All I know is that there are gangs of ‘wet behind the ears’ youths, roaming the streets, bothering people (creepy!), and calling themselves ‘Elder’. Yah, right… don’t know enough to blow their own noses, yet.
    Not really a good look… I’m sure they mean well, however I have found them alarming and annoying, It doesn’t give me a sympathetic view of the thing in general.

  • Burning Cheerios

    You have to accept the teachings in the afterlife for it to count

  • Burning Cheerios

    Wow an actually thought out insult on Mormons, supported by truth at that. This is rare i’m almost impressed.

  • Burning Cheerios

    you’re is just a faster way of writing/saying you are so it wasn’t(was not) wrong

  • Burning Cheerios

    clearly you don’t read what your typing if that’s the most ludicrous thing you’ve ever heard

  • Burning Cheerios

    you have to choose to accept it

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